Landmark deal reached on Iran nuclear program

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  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well he did manage to avoid ma excise tax like a genius. If I parked my car in RI to permanently have it being fixed to avoid ma excise taxes...I would be in jail right now. Him...golf clap from the left.
     
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    Yep another disastrous Obama Foreign policy move, we will go to war with Iran, but when Iran is armed to the teeth by the Russians and almost having a delivery system to nuke NYC.
     
  3. FreshAir

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    it's sad that republicans weakened the deal, but at least we were able to succeed in making the deal, just not as good of one as if republicans had not interfered
     
  4. BestViewedWithCable

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    Just cause Iran hosts public executions of homosexuals doesnt mean they shouldnt be trained on proper use of nuclear weapons.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberals have no issues with the Jewish people, look at the make up of the SC...

    republicans like to lie and say the left hates Jews, but they know they are lying...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

    John Roberts (Chief Justice) Roman Catholic G.W. Bush 2005
    Antonin Scalia Roman Catholic Reagan 1986
    Anthony Kennedy Roman Catholic Reagan 1988
    Clarence Thomas Roman Catholic G.H.W. Bush 1991
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg Jewish Clinton 1993
    Stephen Breyer Jewish Clinton 1994

    Samuel Alito Roman Catholic G.W. Bush 2006
    Sonia Sotomayor Roman Catholic Obama 2009
    Elena Kagan Jewish Obama 2010
     
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    Pfffft . . . laws. For powerful and wealthy leftists like Kerry and Barack and Hillary, laws are for peasants. The main aspect of this 'deal' so far as Barack is concerned, is his presidential legacy. He and the Left-Aligned Mainstream Media will tout this travesty as being the moral equivalent of the ONLY good thing Jimmy Carter managed to do as president, The Camp David Peace Accords.

    Of course Carter's Peace Accord was the real deal and was in effect for about four decades. Obama's and Kerry's 'deal' with Iran is a grotesque joke but the Left-Aligned MSM will treat it like it's a meaningful thing and thus for ALL chronic low information voters (including those idiotic swing voters) they will BELIEVE that Obama/Kerry actually did something great and meaningful. This is all about Obama's abysmal presidential legacy. Sad, isn't it?
     
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    if republicans want to go to war with Iran, let them run on that in the 2016 election
     
  8. stanfan

    stanfan New Member Past Donor

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    Hope and Hopefully are the buzzwords of the Obama Administration - and have never been accomplished in anything he has done in office. One deals with murderous rogue nations with powerful economic sanctions which squeeze the life out of them, until they come to our terms, not theirs, and end their murderous - terrorist ways.

    Does this deal eliminate the Iranian nuclear power program which will quickly be developing nuclear weapons, which they consistently maintain will give them the strength to finally wipe Israel off the map of the Middle East?

    Does this deal specifically state that Iran will quit immediately supplying manpower and monies to the terrorist organizations in the Middle East working against Israel, for over 60-years?

    Does this deal put the Iranian Army and munitions on the move to destroy ISIS in Iraq and Syria?

    Does this deal guarantee that America and Iran will reopen diplomatic negotiations - without discussing the 444-day hostage-taking of our American embassy personnel under the administration of another incompetent President, Jimmy Carter?

    Does this deal squeeze Iran to cut off oil supplies to China, until China stops hacking American government and business records via computer and stops trying to dominate the world's airspace and sea lanes?

    Does this deal specifically criticize and / or signal any change ( and I have heard nothing about it from Iran ), their abysmal record on human rights?

    In short, when you invite a rogue-snake nation back into the league of legitimate nations, one would certainly expect that certain conditions regarding what THEY want vs what they have been and done, have been corrected before you admit and negotiate with them. Meaning, America doesn't negotiate with terrorists. That is the bulwark of American foreign policy since - forever - since we went to war with the Barbary Pirates. What Obama has done is violate the oath of office, and is an impeachable offense.

    What does America, and the world get from re-admitting this radical, Islamic, fundamentalist, military-religious state back into the world of respected nations - armed to the teeth with nuclear weaponry, which they vow to use on Israel.

    All this means is that Israel, probably prior to Obama leaving office, and who gains us nothing for America by negotiation with Iran, will have to locate, identify and take out militarily, the entire Iranian nuclear program and infrastructure before it reaches operational stage. It is even likely that Israel will have to do it through the first use of their own nuclear weapons.

    The Obama - Clinton conspiracy has opened a massive bridge between American - Israeli relations, essentially eliminating Israel as an ally. Our Islamic fundamentalist President and his chosen political concubine, who so desperately wants to be President, she would campaign in Tehran's streets if she thought it would help her, have destabilized the most destabilized region of the world, the Middle East, and given the Western Democracies nothing in return for the favor.

    Iran in possession of nuclear power (what happened to their goat power, worked fine for them for 1,000 years), puts Russia, Turkey, Syria, Saudi-Arabia, Egypt, Tunisia, Cypress, Greece, and of course, Israel, in danger of, and within reach of, nuclear weapons, in the hands of a nation that has done nothing for the world in its history, and continues to sponsor terrorism throughout the world routinely.

    Obama is so desperate for a deal and a legacy, that he is willing to hand over American hegemony to the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists who have been the bane on civilization since the 7th Century AD. Mr. Obama should visit Baghdad, accompanied by Eric Holder and Al Sharpton (all of the same ilk as those attacking and attempting to control Iraq - ISIS), and bring along a Confederate Flag as a sign of America's surrender to terrorism, and exchange it for the ISIS flag to fly atop the White House where the low information, incompetent shills twice elected the incompetent Obama - by the low information, low education, liberal PC idiots of this country, and fly that black terrorist flag (if the Black population thought the Confederate one represented something nasty - wait till they get a load of that ISIS flag and what is behind it). Obama can fly it proudly, as he ignores genocide on the streets of Chicago (for you low information and low educated voter's and people out there - this city is located in America), which he has ignored for 7-plus years, and bow and scrape, something he is good along with step and fetch it, to ISIS and Iran. Black day for America. Harry S. Truman; Dwight Eisenhower; John Kennedy; Richard Nixon; Gerald Ford; Ronald Reagan all would have kicked this guys azz, literally and figuratively if they were alive today...........
     
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    ....duck & cover dude... this deal is a joke that will come back to haunt us big time

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    how does one ruin a bad deal?
     
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    I'm looking for the original 'Duck & Cover' film issued by the defense dept back in 1951.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60
     
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    [video=youtube;Lg9scNl9h4Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg9scNl9h4Q[/video]
     
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    As far as I'm concerned the deal is actually a good one. Everyone wins something. Why would the whole world be concerned about the interest of some small state somewhere in the Middle East and undermine perfectly reasonable deal?

    Judy Asks: Is an Iran Deal Good for Europe?

    http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/?fa=59725

    Almost everyone in Europe agrees that the deal is good for a variety of reasons. I look forward to seeing Europeans accessing vast Iranian energy resources. Cheaper energy, better standard of living.
     
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    Just like Cuba! ;)
     
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    Obama? Couldn't care if it were Dems, Reps, Germany or Greece. BS about Iran "close" to developing Nuclear Weapons has been banded about for the last 23 years. Iran could potentially be one of the better countries to deal with in ME. There is not a chance Iran will want to give up any power in the region by choosing inappropriate actions that will get them invaded by the US or allies, nor for any Islamic promises beyond the real world. Big time media induced political propaganda is rife around anything to do with Iran.
     
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    Here are the key elements of the deal.

    Iranian centrifuges go from 19,000 to 6,104.

    Iran agrees not to enrich uranium above 3.67%, for at least 15 years. This is way below what's required for a nuke or even research. Its only good for power plants.

    Iran agrees to reduce its stockpile of enriched uranium, at 3.67%, from 10,000 kg to 300 kg, for 15 years.

    Iran agrees to not build any more uranium enrichment facilities for 15 years.

    IAEA will have regular access to all Iranian nuclear facilities.

    Inspectors will have access to Iran's nuclear supply chain.

    Inspectors will have access to Iran's uranium mines for 25 years.

    Inspectors will have access to Iran's nuclear centrifuges & storage facilities for 25 years.

    All nuclear related sanctions will be lifted once the IAEA verifies Iran has followed through with their parts of the deal.

    Sanctions can be piut right back if there is significant non-performance by Iran.

    http://news.yahoo.com/formal-nuclear-deal-reached-iran-063643162--politics.html
     
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    Obama sure seems to like the Muslim community more then America.
     
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    Is that why the left just sold them down the river? Does Israel get to keep their country like we were able to keep our doctors?
     
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    Maybe now we can work with Iran in the fight against ISIS. Iran in conjunction with Syria have been wanting to take out ISIS since inception and it has been unfortunate that we have been getting in their way.
     
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    What?! Repubs have nothing to do with Obama laying the foundation for the next Jewish holocaust. Forget about race baiting Obama just entered himself into the history books as the leader that caused the second jewish genocide. This is treason.
     
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    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana

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    dejavu, this is like north korea all over again... lol

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_North_Korean_nuclear_program

    timelines are always neat after the fact, you can really see some things slowly unfold that were pretty much predictable based on past events...
     
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    oh man I spit out my coffee reading this... THAT WAS FUNNY...
     
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    better in 5 years the UN will GIVE them ballistic missile tech. Part of the deal you see. But those missiles totes can't be used to carry nukes!! They're special ballistic missiles that can't be adapted ever because that's the rule and no one ever breaks the rule!!
     
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    Obama didn't accomplish any of his objectives in these negotiations. He simply caved in to Iranian demands. That's why the Iranians are claiming victory over America. When the temporary agreement expires Iran will be free to weaponize its nuclear program.
     
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    And you do not think that we will be reading the license plates of every transport that move in or out of that military facility?

    Would the US allow someone like Russia to inspect any military site that we had? LOL Iran has more to fear from us, invading them, than we do from them. You think Iran wants their military sites examined, so we know what they have in so far as defense?

    The demands of the US is far out of line, and they were put in there so this deal would fail. Afterall, there is still a contingent of Neocons who still have their little list of nations to invade and destabilize, after they checked Iraq, Libya and Syria off. But the big boy of the group, Iran, is still on that list. Of course ignore that, for sometimes ignorance is bliss.
     

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