LANNY DAVIS: COHEN NEVER WENT TO PRAGUE AS STEELE DOSSIER CLAIMS-DOSSIER IS FALSE

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Did you read my post? You don’t need your passport to travel in Europe
     
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    Well shoot I believe you.

    So you hate his actions and words but don't hate him. Well that's totally believable.

    Nothing in that link proves he committed any crime. This is so very typical of you.

    I'm asking for one specific crime he committed. Not crimes you hope he committed. Its not that hard Cubed so let's have them.

    So no provable crimes just as I said. Thanks for once again proving me right.

    LOL Not from yourself. Its you that needs to read the Law Cubed. Go ahead, quote the law where it says a candidate is limited to how much personal money he/she can donate to their own campaign.

    I'm trying to be tolerant since you are only Canadian but you really should try reading the actual law.

    Admitted it? You have no proof he is telling the truth or any evidence he is. Try again Cubed.

    Hope without facts is only hope Cubed. :)
     
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    "That money was not campaign money, sorry," Giuliani said. "I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation."

    Hannity replied: "Because they funneled it through the law firm?"

    To which Giuliani said: "Funneled it through the law firm, and the President repaid him."
     
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  4. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somehow I'm less then convinced lol

    Yeah. In private he might be a totally different person. How would I know?

    I never said it 'proved' he committed any crime or that I personally could prove he committed a crime.That is the circumstantial evidence that shows a pattern of deception by Trump and his administration over the various details of the issue at hand. I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not Mueller. The only person on this planet who can give you what your seeking is him so constantly asking random internet message board people for the specific details of the evidence and crimes that Mueller is going for is a deflection tactic that allows you to feel that you can safely ignore the constant and rising levels of smoke simply because neither you nor I personally have seen the fire.

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    Why would I quote that law? it has nothing to do with what I said.

    https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/contribution-limits/

    Campaign Contribution limits. This is why Cohen plead guilty.

    Whether Trump can be considered culpable for this is still up in the air.


    No I don't. That's kind of why I said

    I've bolded the relevant portion.

    I don't disagree with you on this isolated statement. Even if it is a bit of a non-sequitur.
     
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  5. MissingMayor

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    What has he been right about of late?
     
  6. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    You maybe correct, we won't know for sure until the IG report. I believe Lanny was specific in saying what he said, he even mentioned how bad the media has been getting this story wrong. He was also on Bloomberg news and he was even more emotional about the whole Cohen Dossier story. I can find the Bloomberg video if you want it, this all went down yesterday so it may take a few days for it to hit youtube.
     
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    Besides not falling for that Russian Collusion Delusion. Or besides the weak obstruction case if Mueller went for that?
     
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    Neither has been determined.
     
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    What are you talking about ?

    You ABSOLUTLY can get a warrant on a single accusation, as long as their is other corroborating evidence.

    The app WAS on the up and up if it the dossier was used narrowly, which we know it was. NOBODY goes to a court with a laundry list of accusations to get a warrant. They go in with verifiable, targeted accusations
     
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    Carter Page !!!!!

    He admitted it in testimony back in 2017 to the House Intelligence committee
     
  11. MMC

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    Other than the facts, that there isn't any evidence for either and after 2 years and running.
     
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    The American people have become bored with this.
     
  13. icehole3

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    Pardon me if I don't take your word on this.
     
  14. MissingMayor

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    You were the one trying to defend Dershowitz because he was "right" on "everything". Clearly you have nothing to back that up.
     
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    Well, you can prove he is wrong with what he has said currently with this issue and Cohen.
     
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    Thanks for mentioning the Bloomberg video, but don't bother getting a link. I think I can find it. I definitely want to see it.
     
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    Where he said that it "probably" isn't a crime?
    A) He even couches that with Trump intending to reimburse the payments and fails to mention the lack of reporting, yet even then he isn't sure if it isn't a crime.
    B) Even loans or actions taken by others in support of a campaign have to be reported.

    In this case, neither AMI or the Trump campaign reported the contribution. That Cohen and Pecker are testifying that not reporting was intentional and at the direction of Trump makes it completely a crime,
     
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    In other words, you got nothin....
     
  19. guavaball

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    Took the words right out of my mouth

    Do you honestly expect me to believe you are basing your denial on that?

    Are you really pretending you could never hate someone for their actions because you don't know them personally? Does that work for Hitler, Stain, Mao etc?

    I see you forgot your own words once again: can give you the wealth of info that I know you'll ignore or dismiss.

    That "wealth of info" you are now admitting points to no crime whatsoever.

    He didn't plead guilty to any crime he was convicted of in that statement. Please for the love of God read the material on this. It was a statement without a charge. If you keep denying this then list the law Cohen broke that is directly linked to his statement. I thought you were better than this.

    Once again, you only have hope guiding you. Not facts or law.

    Cubed I'm very disappointed. I didn't expect that level of juvenile deception from you.

    What you left off your quote: Cohen admitted to it at the 'direction of the candidate'.

    Now please, next time don't try to deceive with something that obvious. You directly claimed as part of your evidence that Cohen's admittance is evidence of a crime when it is not. And there is no "if" anywhere in that statement of yours.

    There is nothing isolated about it Cubed. It perfectly sums up every single fake crime being peddled by your side as implicating Trump.
     
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    Then prove it. You dont really think your word is good enough do you?
     
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    I am sure the phony Cohen trips were a key part of their request to the FISA court for the warrants. They did not confirm and corroborate the information. They took fallacious hearsay to a FISA court so that they could surveil Clinton's political opposition and then get a SC to announce investigations without crimes hoping they could create a grounds to get the election overturned by impeachment.

    To say it is just a little disappointing is disappointing. That is why Mueller needs to be shut since he can't seem to find anything to get Trump, and open ends turned over to the career prosecutors at the DOJ. And then a SC establish to investigate the whole dossier thing and how it got into the hands of the FBI and into FISA warrant application and before a FISA court.

    There is a lot of doubt about that. What does it have to do with Russian collusion?
     
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    Why on earth is that? What does it do to the credibility for Steele and his dossier?
     
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    Isn't that why we should do it? To make sure he has not been engaged in a crime?
     
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    Yes you can't just get one on one accusation you have to have evidence to support it. What was the evidence that corroborated the dossier?

    No and this is a glaring example and like the person who commits perjury, the rest of their testimony is tainted.
     
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    Yeah? Cohen allegations weren't listed in the unredacted FISA warrant..... Why in the world would they be in the redacted version? Cohen and Page are not connected in any way that I've seen...

    Reaching...
     

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