Let's face the facts: Trump is not lying about election fraud

I wonder if this will change anyone's mind.

 

It won't. Trumpies gonna Trumpy.

 

And you prefer the authoritarianism and corruption of Biden's love for China over America? Biden's lust for crushing the US Constitution's 2nd Amendment?

(Assuming you are even an American)

 

aka.....Dr love

 

According to the attorney general Trump is lying about so-called massive international conspiracy of election fraud

 

It's become obvious the Bolsheviks have waged a superior propaganda game.
The West, operating on a base of transparency and honesty and freedom simply was ill equipped to handle it.

I suppose we'll return to the dark ages.......to the delight of many.
(The same who delighted in the identical transformation in Venezuela, and now starve to death)

They Rave about Trump, yet offer worse in his place, an Elitists' utopia... and call it "victory"
We've seen all this before...in China, Russia, Iran and recently Venezuela.
They set their sights on bringing down America and encountered no resistance.

 

I'm not going to go round and round with you. I watched today testimony of dozens who signed affidavits testifying to the fraudulent handling of hundreds of thousands of votes. This last sentence of yours shows you spin like the media. They often have said Trump called Mexicans rapists and bad people. That was a lie. He said some are good but they send ones that are bad also. You follow the same pattern saying" Trump refers to FBI agents as scum. I have heard him say many times the upper echelons of the FBI are bad people, but the FBI has many good people. I would agree that Comey, Stroyk , and Page are scum. Sorry, but your niece must just be a buttsore RINO to get her panties in a knot over something he never said. ...that is unless she works with the forementioned.

 

Or...and I've long suspected this......

Some foreign countries with animosity towards America have teams of people who's job is to demoralize and harass Americans on forums.
We do know that some very powerful Asian countries with Communist governments and some ME countries use the internet to attack adversaries routinely.
Iran and China come to mind and the US government has acknowledged nefarious activity as such.

Their English is better than many US citizens so they sound American. But I suspect many are not. So it's not entirely out of the question that someone on a forum criticizing Trump and/or America could be non Americans.

This is not easy to prove....but has a trail of probability similar to the election mess.

 

I'll give you the direct quote. Dec 9. 2019, Trump said: "The FBI also sent to multiple undercover human spies to surveillance and record people associated with our campaign. Look how they've hurt people. They've destroyed the lives of people that were great people, that are still great people. Their lives have been destroyed by scum. Okay, by scum."

How is it "spin" to say Trump called FBI agents "scum"? He did exactly that.

He did say it. See the quote. Look on youtube for his rally on Dec 9. 2019.

What is your basis for labeling my niece, whom you know nothing about, a ,"RINO"?

 

Rhetorically speaking.....

If NewsMax will rot your brain.......

CNN, MSNBC,ABC,CBS etc will totally extract it from the cranium.....squeeze it dry through titanium rollers then burn the remains in a nuclear furnace.

 

I accept the hundreds of witnesses, whistle blowers and data information as credible evidence of fraud.

You all had ZERO evidence and still openly welcomed impeaching Donald Trump as if he was guilty.

So many double standard hypocrites on the left.

 

The standard operating method of tyrants

 

This is the quote I heard it said. Anyway....you take numerous of his quotes and you understand exactly what he meant. Even the quote you posted gets to the point of how the "Directors" conspired to unseat him. So I don't know where you got your "edited" quote. China maybe?


Trump brands FBI top brass ‘human scum’, calls CNN reporter ‘brainless’, and says he’s ‘not a fan’ of Mitt Romney in freewheeling press conference
The president started out daily briefing extolling administration’s coronavirus response before things quickly went downhill


Griffin Connolly
Washington
Monday 20 April 2020 15:15
While Mr Trump, the vice president Mike Pence, and other White House coronavirus task force officials spent nearly an hour at the podium mounting a public relations campaign to paint the administration’s response to the health crisis in positive colours amid outside criticism from Democrats and health experts, the question-and-answer portion of the briefing turned characteristically chaotic as the president clashed with reporters.

When asked to comment on his convicted former campaign adviser Roger Stone’s imminent imprisonment, Mr Trump labelled former FBI Director James Comey and others at the FBI “human scum” for pursuing cases against the his former associates, including Mr Stone, former 2016 Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.


The president suggested Mr Stone, Mr Manafort, and Mr Flynn — who have all been convicted of felonies since working for Mr Trump — were unfairly targeted by law enforcement, though he declined to say whether he would pardon any of them.

 

That's nice. PBS makes you smaaaaart.

 

It's possible, but there are some problems with this narrative:
-charges of widespread fraud were made before any affidavits were collected
-I'm aware of none that serve as evidence of WIDESPREAD fraud - with the exception of a debunked claim about Dominion.
-complaints about process do not entail fraud
-reports of suspicions do not entail fraud
-I haven't seen corroborated claims, just a plethora of individual assertions.
-the assertions have not been investigated to assess their credibility. Trump's attorneys accept any and every claim, and supporters treat them as facts.

Understand, this is my PERCEPTION. I'd be happy to be proven wrong with evidence.

No evidence?! There is zero doubt about Trump's actions. It's a judgment call as to whether or not it was adequate to remove him from office.

"The left" is not an entity, it's a vague generalization of a set of political views. It's invalid to assemble statements by a variety of people and identify double standards among them. Call out individuals, but accept the fact that there are individuals on both the right and the left who apply double standards. For example, consider the standard of evidence some have employed in their judgment of Biden's alleged investment in a Chinese business. Apply this standard to any number of Trump's deeds.

 

like the 27 witnesses that testified trump put in the fix in ukraine??

 

Nope. Now they are calling for Barr to be hung for treason.

 

You mean all of them that admitted they witnessed nothing?

 

Does 'Chi" mean the short for Chi-NA ?
Are you the Chi-nese Cowboy?

Just curious about your member name.

 

Before the election, about 60% of democrats thought there was fraud in play. After they won, that dropped to 10%, the current figure. Amazing how winning convinces you everything was on the up and up.
Today, about 40% of the public still believe fraud took place. Right or wrong, if you believe your vote is meaningless, you feel you have been disenfranchised and that will affect how we relate to government. The voting process needs to be professional and totally trustworthy if we expect people to believe in it. This election was littered with confusion and irregularities, and that alone destroys public confidence in it. Chaos is frequently the cover for dishonesty- it shouldn't be dismissed as the best we can do, unless you have an agenda that has is hampered by an honest election.

 

Recess over already?

 

We are supposed to believe that Biden was the most insanely popular president ever, receiving millions more votes than either Hilary or Obama. And yet Biden's election lost so many down ballot votes, that Democrats lost in local, state and US Congressional elections.

Meanwhile Trump received millions more votes this time, then the first time, and greatly increased his votes among blacks and Hispanics, and won down ballot elections all across the country, and yet he still lost to the Joe O'Biden who campaigned even less than Hilary did????

 

Yes.

 

Ummm, Trump was correct, women and girls were being raped as they crossed the US-Mexico border. Who are we to assume were raping them, the Chinese?

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S. - HuffPost

According to a stunning Fusion investigation, 80 percent of women and girls crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during their journey. That’s up from a previous estimate of 60 percent, according to an Amnesty International report.

This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. The number of unaccompanied Central American girls caught at the Southwest border has rapidly outpaced the number boys, according to a July Pew Research study.

 

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