Let's get some stuff straight about Hunter and Joe.

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  1. mswan

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    The closest thing to defending Trump I've ever said is that his policies are better for the country than either Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden. And, they are.
     
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    Which is completely true. But apparently we don't hire/elect President's to work for the people but to make us "feel" good. Or the system is corrupt that it wants Democrats in charge to protect the system that is currently destroying the country.

    In any case, it needs to be rooted out and people need to go to prison. Especially those tha have been "untouchable", like James Comey.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are welcome to that misinformed opinion. One not shared by a majority of Americans.
     
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    My failure to thoroughly peruse.

    If Hunter Biden is ever convicted of anything, he should probably reconsider running for whatever office he has in mind. Crime is bad.
     
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    Actually its a blatant violation of failing to register as a foreign agent.
     
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    There's a lot of words in this post that do not include the phrase "big guy." Hunter Biden's business partner (CEO and middleman for the Biden family and foreign entities) has already publicly stated that Joe Biden is the "Big Guy." You claim this thread is about "getting things straight," but you intentionally ignored the entire crux of the issue at hand to play a silly game of hide the ball. The problem isn't just that Hunter Biden is getting paid for the access to his father that he brings... it's that Joe Biden was directly taking a cut from those corrupt foreign entities and was likely actively involved in providing them with political safety.
     
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    Nonsense. There is proof that Hunter was paid by Burisma to lobby US officials to bring about an end to the investigations of Burisma and its owner. AND ONE MONTH later Joe was in Ukraine threatening to withhold aid unless Ukraine fired the prosecutor investigating Burisma. He was fired and the investigation was ended.
     
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    Yep, 10% for Hunter and 10% for the big guy, held by Hunter. Corroborated by Hunters email complaining that he has to give half his income to Joe.
     
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    If you consider that his raising unemployment, the negative balance of trade , the national debt, and the number of uninsured Americans is good for America.

    How is his making Mexico pay for that big, beautiful wall, resurrecting coal mining, reviving the steel industry, and restoring manufacturing working out for you?

    (I should openly acknowledge that I'm biased because I prefer a policy under which losers don't lie to goons to incite an attack on outnumbered police defending democracy.)
     
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    Propaganda media and American jurisprudence have differing standards for the credibility of evidence.

    You may wish to provide whatever privileged information you have to the incoming Congressional leadership.
     
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    I'm glad to see someone else reads the Bulwark.
     
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    Laptop hard drive establishes the credibility of the evidence
     
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    Or they are taking directions from The FBI and intentionally omitting those facts.
     
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    The legendary "laptop from hell" is of no value in any court in the land, continuity of evidence having been egregiously compromised.

    Even MacIsaac, who is reported to have turned over the laptop allegedly owned by Hunter Biden to the FBI acknowledged,

    “I do know that there have been multiple attempts over the past year-and-a-half to insert questionable material into the laptop
    as in, not physically, but passing off this misinformation or disinformation as coming from the laptop.”
     
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    Paranoia works for some people, especially if it is compatible with their agenda.
     
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    Or maybe it's true. James Comey asked the NYTimes to withold a story until he directed them to print it. It was disinformation about Trump. Why wouldn't the FBI just do it again to protect Hunter Biden?

    Are you in denial the laptop exists, still?
     
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    ???? Hunter to the computer shop owner to the FBI. Where do you see a compromise?
     
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    Joe Biden's son and family "Influence Peddling" Is A National Security Risk
    here is more proof and documentation you can not refute.... I am not going to single out each as these threads have all you need of multiple issues... the fact there was interaction between the Biden family and our adversary China through Chinese spies would be enough to start any investigation by any competent DOJ...

    Can you say "suspicious activity reports,"?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-impeach-biden.605461/page-5#post-1073839208
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...why-not-for-hunter-biden-lets-discuss.605829/
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ily-and-fbi-before-the-election.604400/page-3

     
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    Well, I'm right, you and they are wrong. Right and wrong are not determined by majority opinions.
     
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    I do not have the power to either confirm or refute hyper-partisan allegations concerning Citizen Biden.

    I leave that to our system of jurisprudence.

    The Department of Justice, throughout four years of the prior regime, and two years under the current one, has not filed any charges against this fellow, so there is a presumption of innocence until proven guilty - as is the case for every American, including even Trump.
     
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    Baloney.

    James Gilliar, a business associate summarizing the allocation of the equity in Oneida Holdings LLC., in the email, wrote how four partners would get 20 percent each, except for Jim Biden, who would get 10 percent. He added a question: “10 held by H for the big guy?” One of the recipients of the mail, Anthony Bobulinski, has said that the “big guy” referred to Joe Biden and that “H” referred to Hunter. Bobulinski was a guest of Trump at one of the 2020 presidential debates.

    But Gilliar told the Wall Street Journal in 2020: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

    Three days after the email was sent, a draft agreement setting up Oneida was circulated. It shows each partner would receive 20 percent, including Jim Biden. No mention is made of Joe Biden.
    The company agreement signed on May 22, 2017, had the same allocation. Oneida was to hold 50 percent of another corporate entity called SinoHawk. Neither Gilliar nor James Biden responded to requests for comment.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...r-biden-deals-allegedly-involving-his-father/
     
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    Nonsense. Gilliar also said, “Don’t mention Joe being involved; it’s only when u are face to face, I know u know that but they are paranoid.” Hunter's business partner/CEO has claimed he had a meeting with Joe Biden where they discussed the business deals and they vetted him to make sure he would keep his mouth shut. Joe Biden told him, “thank you for helping my son … My son and my brother trust you emphatically, so I trust you.” Snag_5a3b9df.png

    The facts are not on your side. You have to leave out pertinent details to try to mitigate this disaster. When you don't intentionally ignore basic well known details of this issue you come to the same conclusion as everyone else. Joe Biden was actively involved in Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings and was set up to directly profit from them.
     
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