Let's study the islamic scriptures and the life of Muhammed together.

The land of Uruk-hi.

 

I'm a human and I'm mostly athee. I started buddhism recently, I don't want to make that a religion war. I'm not related from an ideological point of view to the guys of burma and I will never be.

I already discussed with some other buddhists on that the issue I felt a terrible angriness against Islam. Most of them encouraged me to stay respectfull and not being agressive. I didn't talk of that however with the buddhists who are former muslims.

@Margot2 If you consider French history, muslims tend to be different. We welcomed italian, polish, spanish, russian, chinese, vietnamese, japanese, indian. Only muslims integration is that hard and from all the muslims I see, the more they were faithfull in Islam, the less respectfull and integrated they were.

 

French history? Like in French Algeria or French Morocco?

 

What's the link ?

There is plenty of french people from viet namese, laos, or cambodgian origins who never created trouble. People from christian african countries tend do integrate well too.

 

I'm not so sure about that idea of the early Qur'an.

Zayd ibn Thabit began assembling the Qur'an soon after the death of Muhammad. Caliph Uthman ibn Affan produced the Qur'an from that manuscript. Thus, the Qur'an existed in its current form within 20 years of Muhammad's death.

Everyone really should be monumentally impressed by the fact that this document has lasted for so long in that original form without the issues of translation, and by the power that it has had. It's especially impressive, I think, that its very name is an exhortation for individuals to go to the original document rather than supporting the kind of human hierarchy of authority and leadership that we see in the Christian church of that time and through to the present. Of course there are Muslim theologians whose life work is the study of the Qur'an, but they don't have the kind of position that has been a constant feature of the papacy from its inception as the original Christian church through to today - at least until the Shiite branch created their Ayatollah system.

By contrast, early Christian hierarchy was not at all accepting of Christians reading the bible. I know modern day Catholics who are surprisingly unaware of the content of the Bible, and point to the fact that their early training had nothing to do with reading the Bible.