Let's study the islamic scriptures and the life of Muhammed together.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    100% true!
    You're on a roll today. Keep up the great work!
     
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    Seems weird that the all-knowing Allah would pick a "caravan driver" as his #1 role model for ALL TIME, instead of one of the most respected scientists of all time, or say a world-renowned scholar, or maybe one of the best civil rights heroes of all time, etc. Instead, he picked a pedophile/cab-driver. I'm quite suspicious.
     
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    Muhammed was a caravan driver..

    The population of Arabia was under 2 million people in 1930.. There were NO villages of 900 in 600 AD.

    Jews arrived and took over a water source and schemed against the Muslims..
     
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    You copy/pasted your last message. Even if the jews were wrong, it doesn't justify to split the throat of all men and sell the rest as slaves.

    Muhammed was maybe a caravan driver at the beginning of this life, but at the end he was a general who took 1/5 of all the razzia loot for him.
     
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    From the time of the Pharaohs the Arabs of the Arabian peninsula traded with Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Levant, East Africa and the Indus Valley.... mostly Islam was spread thru commerce and intermarriage.
     
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    Copy and pasted what?
     
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    You don't reach in one century the south of France through commerce and intermarriage.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Egypt
     
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    Arabs also had extensive trade with the Vikings.

    Wiki is not always a reliable source. Any dimwit can write anything.
     
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    And ? I never pretended arabs never traded with anybody.

    About wiki, it's not the best source, but you can consult the talk. Furthermore, you can't spit on that source without having any reasonnable counter source.
     
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    I don't remember what year Muslims arrived in Spain, but they certainly were a civilizing influence.. Jews could join their guilds or start their own.
     
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    The US executed people as young as 14. And the Nuremberg trials, and everybody else who got executed after WWII, is perfectly well defendable. Do note, Mohammad didn't behead +600 Jews, for being Jews.

    Nope. It's the allied hunting and rounding up POW's and sentencing them to death in a trial for the things they have done.
     
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    Allah will send all Jews to be burned alive after death....just for being Jews. Barbaric.
     
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    Yes, Mohammad was very bad and a number of things done by the allies was also very bad.
     
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    Qur'an 9:29 says to charge Jews a separate, discriminatory tax (the "jizya"), just for being Jews - if Trump did the same thing to, say, MUSLIMS, people would be outraged! They need to be outraged at Muslims for approving of Q9:29.
     
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    I condemn that.
    Do YOU condemn "the greatest role model of all time" for having sex with a 9 year-old girl?
     
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    I guess all the people killed or enslaved in the invasion should have been thankfull.
     
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    Yes, he (Allah, in the Qur'an) said to give a certain amount of the stolen booty to.....wait......wait for it........you'll be shocked........to MOHAMMAD!! Didn't see that one coming!!
     
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    Islam is spread by the sword - that's why ISIS, AQ, etc. try to do just like Mohammad did - spread Islam by the sword. It's hard for a person to VOLUNTARILY believe that a pedophile/murder/rapist (Mohammad) is the best role model of all time and therefore join his cult voluntarily - so they need to FORCE Mohammad's religion on people.
     
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    It's funny how muslims justify the invasion of non muslim countries because it's a "civilizing" influence and condemn in the same time european for having invaded some countries with the pretext of "civilization".
     
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    Wait - Mohammad, the #1 role model for all Muslims for all time, was an ENSLAVER and SLAVE OWNER!? WTF!? Then why would a Muslim still be a Muslim to this day when we now know that slave owners were immoral people, not role models, and no sane "god" would pick a slave owner as the #1 role model for all time!?
     
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    Art, Medicine, Science and literature all flourished.. Cities has street lights and garbage pick up.
     
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    So compared to barbaric 10th century barbarians Islam is a good religion. Got it.
     
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    In the Islamic texts, a person is forbidden to even have a portrait in their home! Some "art"!
     
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    The Muslims stole from the non-Muslims in that regard.
     
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    Muslims have consistently blamed Western "colonization" for the horrific conditions in most Muslim lands today....I blame the Qur'an's directions.
     

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