Lets talk specific laws and solutions to Racism

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  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Most of us respect the law but how do you expect anyone to respect the law when the POTUS and his trained atack dog Barr violate both the spirit and the letter and the spirit of the law!
     
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    https://www.investors.com/politics/...ill-not-tax-cuts-caused-the-financial-crisis/
    That was easy! Here’s a link from investors business daily showing how the Clintons pressured our home loan institutions to loan more money to minorities without down payment or credit this causing the housing bubble burst and financial crisis of 2008.
    https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2018/06/03/obama-put-diversity-over-safety-at-faa
    Here’s another link showing Obama changing air traffic controller hiring standards to favor minorities. Reducing math and experience standards.

    https://hechingerreport.org/facts-about-race-and-college-admission/
    Here’s another article about the former administration’s policy toward discriminating against whites.

    I really shouldn’t have to go on. This is discrimination via government mandate.
     
  3. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Opinion pieces aren't facts, sorry. Opinion pieces that just cite other opinion pieces are especially dubious.

    Never heard of One News Now, but their links in the article don't say what they claim, so no reason to believe anything they say.

    You mean an article citing the Trump admin claiming that the previous admin's policy discriminated. Trump and his sycophants don't have any credibility.

    Maybe try quoting specific policies themselves? You know, primary sources. Quoting the relevant text would help, too. I have no interest in wasting any more time reading gibberish from spurious websites.
     
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  4. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Same thing happened to my daughter at a private church run college. She and we took out loans, she got some scholarships, the school at first "gave her " financial aid grant then after received a nice scholarship from doing volunteer work as a first responder. The school subtracted that amount from what they the school had offered. The school's financial office goons wanted to see our tax returns for 5 years prior, wanted to know what kinds of cars we drove, how old, how much our house was worth and how much we paid for it. They used my income from before I was laid off as a factor in financial aid. Yes one of our cars was a luxury vehicle purchased at six months old before I and thousands got laid off from my industry. I had just gotten back to corporate work after being laid off, trying to start a business and working three part time jobs. After another cut in aid by the financial officer I asked the schmuck "does the Pope need another gold ring is that why your are cutting her aid.". Yes it was a Catholic school so my comment about the Pope was right on target , fair and balanced but Sam the finance schmuck did not think so.

    My daughters first room mate got tuition, board, meals, books, all free and probably spending money. My daughter not being a girl of color had to pay her own way. There were no reparations payments for a granddaughter of Eastern European immigrants who survived Nazi slave labor camps. Oh I forgot she got $200 from my Veterans Organization but the finance officer subtracted that too. Pope needed another ring.

    After two years my daughter transferred to a state school and commuted to classes.
     
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    It’s real.
     
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    Yep, just like your daughter, I was in the receiving end of the raw part of the deal called affirmative action. There is no better way to get a liberal to rethink his views on many things that are truly unfair.
     
  7. PARTIZAN1

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    Afimative action outlived it's purpose but the pendulum has not stopped swinging towards that extreme. Affirmative should have been ended by the late 1970's or at least by the early 1980's.

    The next gang that is demanding affirmative action is the LGBTQ CONFUSO 1000 GENDER , FLASH GENDER, LIQUID GENGER , INSTANT GENDER, WTF GENDER NO F... GENDER, DON'T F-ING KNOW GENDER .......... So yes the pendulum is swinging and it is swinging to the extreme and towards the absurd.
     
  8. Captain Obvious

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    Lol. I figured. Oh so any news source that doesn’t meet your liberal tastes must be illegitimate right?
    Obviously your being obstinate. Hey man believe what you want.
    Ignorance is bliss right?
     
  9. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure it is, and some day someone will provide some evidence.
     
  10. Burzmali

    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about news sources that people have heard of? Just like you wouldn't accept an op-ed from the NYT, I'm not accepting one from, well, anywhere. I asked for facts, you gave opinions and bluster from the Trump admin. You couldn't even link to the original sources, but rather ones citing themselves and other op-eds. If you really want to make a big deal of it, though, I'll just link to these articles that say white discrimination doesn't happen, and we can call it good. You had three, I've got five. Or are you going to be a hypocrite and bitch about my sources?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-anti-white-discrimination/
    http://www.aclrc.com/myth-of-reverse-racism
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/05/dear-white-people-please-read-white-fragility/
    https://theconversation.com/the-dangerous-belief-that-white-people-are-under-attack-88622
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/06/get-grip-white-people-were-not-victims/
     
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    I have. Go to the website of random universities and learn about admission policies. Read this thread. Just because you lack knowledge doesn’t mean evidence doesn’t exist. :)
     
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    Ok. Can we agree on the fact that preferment to one race is discrimination against another? I mean that is what you would call systemic racism right?
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, preference of one race over the other is discrimination. Now if only there were any actual examples of policies that do that to the detriment of whites, then the folks claiming discrimination against whites might have a point.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I've looked at a handful of admissions guidelines that were linked in past discussions like this on other boards and haven't seen anything that amounts to discrimination against whites. No one can seem to link to an actual policy or primary-source example of discrimination. Lots of bitching, but no actual evidence.
     
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    Any policy, government or private, that prefers one race over another is discrimination against the other races. We agree on that then.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And some day someone might link to such a policy to back up their claim. I won't hold my breath, though.
     
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    Well it only stands to reason then that any policy (college admissions) for example that was compelled or coerced by the government to be more diverse would have to consider someone’s race in manner of admissions. Otherwise government money would be withheld. That in its nature is preferential treatment is it not?
     
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    Well if affirmative action isn’t evidence enough, you are too indoctrinated into institutional racism to be helped. I think it’s sad you can’t oppose all racism. It’s thinking like yours that will ensure racism will thrive and grow in the coming decades.
     
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    CONFIRMED: Vandal behind racist graffiti at Salisbury University … is black.
    He should be billed for all the expenses. And every administrator who blamed white people for this should apologize for his/her racist stereotyping.
     
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    Racism is an opinion.
    Opinions cannot be regulated or controlled by law.
     
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    "Progressives" have turned the language of inclusion into totalitarianism.

    “ALMOST A TOTAL TOTALITARIAN TYPE OF MENTALITY:” Cornell campus climate “so far beyond political correctness.”

    The solution to "racism" is the same as it has always been, we are individual not assigned too "groups" and "baskets" by "progressives" who seek power by pitting various groups at each other's throats.

    We are ONE people
    With ONE law,
    Applied without FAVOR.
     
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    "...and hired a new associate vice president for diversity and inclusion at a cost of $140,000 annually."

    Heh! Somebody got a job out of this!
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends on what you cout as "compelled or coerced ... to be more diverse." It is possible to make a policy more welcoming to minorities without forcing minorities to be admitted over whites.
     
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    Feel free to quote the parts of affirmative action that you consider to be discriminatory. My experience discussing that with people has been that they don't actually know anything about it.
     

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