Liberals/progressives/socialists took to the streets today, will be back tomorrow

When having to deal with counter-protesters. Yeah, there will be violence when that happens. Gone are the days of just letting counter-protesters coming to disrupt what would normally be a peaceful protest.

There are no counter-protests involved with what's happening now. Just a bunch of triggered snowflakes vandalizing property and attacking police.

 

BS!! Why do you lie so? Reports are that today there was no violence!

You must be suffering huge butt hurt over this rejection of your perverted hero.

 

Look at the date of my original post; I posted about the left wing violence at Friday's inauguration. Today, Saturday, you are correct; there was only the threat of violence from leftists.

And you must not keep track of those you argue with, as I'm not a fan of Trump. But it is incorrect to say he's been rejected, as he's sitting in the White House while the fat, angry angry women are carrying on today...

 

Salon, a leftist website and what the heck is FTR? Here, let me post some Alex Jones to counter your argument :reflow:

And as another normal American here posted, the days of left wing wackjobs bullying normal Americans is over...

 

The nutty women on the news today were saying they are marching for the immigrants and the homosexuals.

I just don't get it. The immigrants are here illegally and not immigrants at all, they are criminals. This is Obama's legacy in action...a stupid, ignorant, confused populace that thinks criminals should have more rights than legal citizens and a man with a penis is really a woman.

 

The violence during the inauguration was televised and is well documented at youtube.com. There were very few rioters, but they were certainly energetic. The damage seems to have been minimal.

 

LOL so you blame the victims for the need for the Tea Party to be violent. It would be easier if you just acknowledged the truth--most political movements have bad apples attracted to them.

 

So you attack the people who tell truth without countering the truth. BTW, the FTR is a conservative talk radio site so at least some conservative can recognize truth when it hits them in their face and teh Christian Science Monitor is probably the most politically neutral publication you will find in the US.

 

Obviously that 3 minute piece was enough for you to work with in your need to smear half the nation. You've been posting this same copied-and-pasted thing over and over and over all day.

 

You just don't get it, huh? Too complicated no doubt.

 

Even MSNBC said the signs carried around at the protest could not be shown on TV because they were so crude.

It wasn't an isolated incident; a very significant number of the protestors are repulsive individuals.

 

How so? Do you believe that the rioters represent all who oppose Trump?

 

All? Of course not. But they do represent a sizable slice of what the Democratic Party has become.

The flag burning, the dislike of police officers and the military, the embrace of extremest groups like Black Lives Matter; these are (now) mainstream Democratic DNA. The left, and the mainstream media, which reflects them so well, was relatively quiet while one of their own was in power. But now that the enemy has once again assumed power, leftists have reverted to their natural dislike of normal Americans and what they represent.

 

Who is telling the truth? It certainly isn't the Washington Post, NY Times or other mainstream media news organizations these days. And it's not Breitbart of Fox, either.

We have become a very divided country over the past eight years and are seeing the results of a change to the federal power structure. Just as we saw the change when Obama took over the federal government from Bush.

The divisive identity politics of the Obama years produced Trump. If we were able to survive that, leftists can certainly survive the Trump years.

Hillary was such a corrupt, flawed candidate, she likely would have lost to Cruz, Rubio or Kasich. And we would have seen the exact same meltdown coming from the left...

 

Liberals, progressives, and socialists can come back as often as they wish. They're still just a tiny fraction of the population.

 

The Republican party is playing with fire. 8 years ago with the accent of Sarah Palin they tapped I to a very toxic Vien in America. The very dedicated mob mentality of right wing hate. A strain that has been nurtured by the right wing noise machine for some 30 years .
It's the group think mentality. It's the exact same thing totalitarian regimes use to control the masses. It's nationalism.
Now in America we have a tradition of revolting against tyranny . The fact is a very small minority has gained power and seem intent upon abusing this newly gained power . Using it against Americans. And those maps dont mean sht . There are millions of progressive voters in those red areas. Progressive voters who have been disenfranchised by gerrymandered districts. So insanely drawn up that the courts have to step in and still the criminals who sit in our government ignore the lawful orders of the court.

Hell 48% of the electorate did not even bother to vote. Of those who did vote , some three million more voted for Clinton than for the drump. Now they are acting like bullies screaming at the media , fighting with the intelligence community , cozying up to the military in an obvious threatening posture. And you wonder why Americans are fighting back.? We are going to fight back like you never knew we could.

 

The ones present seemed okay with what she said as they applauded her.

I haven't seen anyone on the left criticize what was said.
Do you support it?

 

This is an excellent point, one worth examine in more detail.

They ARE a tiny slice of America, yet the support of the leftist mainstream media makes them appear to be not only numerous, but a majority of Americans. The media was ready to call Hillary's election a mandate for liberals/progressives/socialists, but her loss brought attention to just how much out of the mainstream leftists are these days.

Normal American have rejected the left's message, as is evident of the Democratic Party losing over 1,000 federal and state legislative seats since 2010. In reality, Democrats have become a fringe, regional party occupying mostly coastal areas and urban centers of the United States.

Yet this women's hate march yesterday made it look like those who voted in all those Republicans since 2010 are on the fringe. But these woman will go home and once again become a small minority in comparison to the normal Americans who surround them.

The leftist media amplifies these leftist voices, but when it comes down to it, the fat lady with pink hair who marched yesterday went back home to her cats and bitterness, and she'll no more impact our future than Democratic KKK marchers did in the 1960s...

 

As I have no objective evidence on the political composition of the crowd I assume that it is an amalgam of many groups including democrats, independents, individuals who supported a 3rd party, anarchists, Sanders supporters who dislike Trump and Clinton, and even possibly a few conservatives who see Trump as an embarasment to the Republican Party.

Source citation needed for the above claim if you want to elevate it to a fact. (Specifically the claim of mainstream)

Indeed, is that not human nature? I heard many conservatives making a fuss under Obama who now are much more content that Trump is in office. Just human nature to me. When we humans are satisfied we tend to not fuss much, but when things are not going our way we tend to be more vocal about our dissatisfaction.

What is a "normal" American if other than Americans who think like you?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/obama-black-lives-matter-meeting/

The president of the United States invited leaders of the Black Lives Matter organization into the White House. He invited rappers with a history of racism and violence. This is not mainstream America, sorry.

Human nature? For sure. But journalists who report news should not allow human nature to shape their narrative. This happened when they fawned over leftists holding the reins of power, and it will happen when their idealogical enemies hold power. And as reflected in TV ratings, normal Americans are rejecting these biased news sources.

Normal Americans are those who are in the mainstream; they condemn the assassinations of police officers and rightly view BLM as nothing more than a terror organization. They believe in the importance of free speech and the Second Amendment. They abhor the likes of a William Ayres or a Jeremiah Wright. They stand for the national anthem. They are frightened by university speech codes and the tilting towards totalitarianism they see from the left.

Obama normalized fringe leftist behavior, which normal Americans reject. This is why the Democrats have lost over 1,000 state and federal legislative seats since 2010.

 

I do not see the measure of mainstream as being one person. Is there a scientific measure of mainstream? If not then what mainstream is all depends upon who you ask thus subjective.

Is bias limited to the left? Yesterday I saw the White House press secretary make some unfounded claims and Trump has made a number of unfounded claims in the last 18 months. I think your argument would be much stronger if Trump were more objective but as it is he is being hypocritical.

Mainstream and normal changes over time.

Mainstream : a prevailing current or direction of activity or influence
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mainstream

An impressive argument if this is never to be reversed, but I have been alive long enough to watch the pendulum swing back and forth many times. Enjoy it while it lasts as all good things come to an end. A review of history will show that four to eight years from now we the people will more than likely be sick and tired of Trump and the RNC thus the pendulum will swing back to the left. Come the midterms if things are not going as well as Trump promised he may loose the House and or senate thus leaving him potentially hamstrung for the remaining two years of his term.

As an independent I hope that Trump can accomplish what he claims he can, if so perhaps he will be another Reagan and after eight years pass the torch to another republican. Time will tell.

 

Of course it's not limited to the left, and I would certainly expect Trump, his press secretary and others on the right to possess bias. Heck, they will attempt to use propaganda whenever possible.

My point, though, is an independent, unbiased media shouldn't care which side is in power, and should industriously investigate the government and avoid passing along propaganda as news. Sadly, our left winged media such as the NY Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, McClatchy and other news organizations simply spread the propaganda offered to them from the Obama administration.

I'd love to see a leftist agree that the NY Times etc are simply mirror images of Fox and Breitbart, but they don't see it.

Not as much as you think.

While the fringe of both the left and right have gained ground over the past couple decades, most normal Americans still possess most of the same values and culture their great-grandparents possessed.

Reagan was my first presidential vote, so I agree the pendulum will swing back and forth. And one of the reasons it has swung so far to the right since 2010 is due to the fringe politics of Obama. Remember, he was widely considered the most liberal member of the senate when he was elected.

He concealed his leftism behind a good natured friendliness and a great ability to communicate with a celebrity-obsessed group of voters. But his policies ultimate decimated the Democratic Party.

Not sure of your political leaning, but please see a post of mine where I speculate why Obama's presidency, at the end, turned out to be a failure:

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit.../491905-why-obama-failed-his-second-term.html

I can't get any the liberals here to interact re my thoughts...

 

I agree with most of what you have said, but would say that Obama did not lead us further to the left as it was those who voted for him who placed him power. Trump has been placed in power by those who voted for him who expect him to move the country back to the right to one degree or another. Presidents imperfectly do the will of the populace as it is us voters who take part in deciding the direction of the country. So if things go downhill under Trump I will place more blame on those who voted for him than Trump himself as it was they who placed him in power. If he does well then my hat will be off to those wiser than me.

 

Yes by population, your metric is area of land I see. So if antarctica were a state it would look impressive on your map even with 2000 people.

 

Um yes and I'm sure the fringe of the right would have rioted had Trump lost so... what's the point?

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Amusing how perfectly that would prove their point about Trump. And I'm sure he would if he thought he could get away with it.