Liberals/progressives/socialists took to the streets today, will be back tomorrow

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Medieval Man, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    We've already had real world tests of that, Obama won in 2008 and 2012. No riots.

    You lose again.
     
  2. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Lesser in magnitude maybe, but also not comparable. Obama actually wasn't an unusual politician other than being black. McCain and Romney enthusists are not the same as Trump enthusists, many of which actually believed his lie that the system is rigged. Trump encouraged protesters to be roughed up during his rallies. McCain, in contrast was exceptionally honorable in how he ran his campaign, not that it did him much good with Americans.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46052395/...rch-only-hours-after-obamas-election-victory/

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    How many actually rioted and did criminal activity?
    How many do you suspect are liberal/progressive/socialist?

    Somehow, I don't think a war has been started.
     
  4. Kode

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    Get it right: we have declared war on capitalism and right wing politics.


    Well, there are your lies if you are referring to the "Women's March". It was without incident. Zero violence.


    LOL!! As they say, "you ain't seen nothin' yet!" If you think Democrats are extreme, what will you think of the push for workers' control and socialism that is brewing? LOL!!!


    Ya think? LOL!!! .... "then" duh


    Wow. Your ability to read the signs of the times is pathetic. Why is it righties always get everything backward? LOL!!!
     
  5. rkhames

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    The post that I replied to stated that "most" of the country voted left. Since creation (poster that I was replying to) did not specify what they meant by "most", I posted a map that clearly showed that most, in terms of number of states, did not post left. Trump took 30 states compared to Hillary taking 20 states. But this was actually a snare. Both you, and creation, took the bait. Creation changed the criteria to "actual voting Americans". I responded:

    You on the other hand, just claimed, "Yes by population". Since you did not specify voting population. Therefore your statement includes those that didn't vote. That would mean your off by more then 92 million people.

    The fact is that more then half of the votes cast in the 2017 Presidential election were for right-wing candidates.
     
  6. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    You're just twisting words and that does nothing for a meaningful discussion. We all knew what the poster really meant. As to your last point, even if true it means little on terms of the senate since more republicans were up for reelection, and incumbents have an advantage. The democrats failed to retake the senate, they did not suffer a net loss there. They picked up 2 seats, but again this is not a victory since more republicans had to defend their seats. I am not sure about the house in terms of net change and my phone's about to die.

    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/senate
     
  7. Medieval Man

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    Obama moved the Democratic Party to the fringe left. The Democrats then lost over 1,000 federal and state legislative seats, governor's offices and other offices. The right now controls well over the majority of each state's legislatures and governorships, holds both branches of congress, the presidency and will appoint probably three or more supreme court justices in the next four years.

    It is only in the make-believe lands of Hollywood and university campuses where the left thrives. But yep, we're on the brink of socialism, keep fighting for that, it will draw even more normal Americans to your party.
     
  8. Medieval Man

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    I think the person you are responding to has a great point, counting ALL votes for EVERY candidate. That is the true reflection of the popular vote and the meaning behind it.

    In California, there wasn't a Republican on the ballot to replace Barbara Boxer. Leftists in my state were able to institute a primary system where the top two vote getters are on the ballot; both were Democrats. Republicans in the state were urged to vote for the less radical of the pair.

    This is why leftists citing the popular vote is nonsense; if the election was based on the poplar vote, Trump obviously would have spent more time in CA and NY and other blue states. He wouldn't have won them, by any means, but he certainly would have brought more Republican voters to the polls. But this is all speculation, playing 'what if'? None of it matters in any sense at all...
     
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    It's been 4 days since you made this ridiculous comment. Did Trump have 500,000 people arrested?

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    "war on right wing politics".

    Meaning, the left wing babies aren't adult enough to accept two parties. It's their way or they declare war on America.

    Classic lunatics. I'm glad they've proven the right wing to be correct about them. Domestic terrorists the left wing are.
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    It's exactly comparable. You just don't like the comparison because of how it showcases the left.
     
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    Yes, by almost 3 million votes. Your map doesn't show how most people voted. It shows how the electoral college voted.
     
  12. Nordic Democrat

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    You seem to have no earthly clue about what Obama's actual; positions were, how he betrayed the left, and how the left and right are not enemies, but are wrapped in a class struggle. Rural farmers in Kentucky cannot make ends meet and are struggling to survive, as well as a black single mother in Brooklyn. You've fed right into the propaganda.
     
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    If creation meant something other then what he posted, he/she would have responded when I called him/her out. But the post was only answered by someone that can not possibly know what the poster actually meant. Unless your going to claim that you are both LiveUninhibited and creation. Otherwise you are making false assumptions.

    Creation stated that Most of the country voted left. That is not true. Then changed it to most of the actual voters. That still isn't true. So, I have pointed out that these statements are false. The fact is some of your liberal compadres have been making false statements every since the election. The only statement that is even remotely true is that Hillary Clinton got just over 2.8 million votes more the Donald Trump. Hillary did not get more the half the votes cast, and the majority of the country did not vote left. To claim otherwise is to be promoting lies. That is where I am adding something meaningful to the discussion. Keeping it within the realm of reality.

     
  14. Medieval Man

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    Y'know, I used to think people like you were Alex Jones-obsessed conspiracy theorists who could go on for hours about the Illuminati and Bilderbergs. But in some ways, what you say has some merit.

    Obama (and Hillary) are hugely intertwined with the big banks and Wall Street, although they pretend they're not. Repubs pretend to oppose illegal immigration, but grease the skids for it to import cheap labor.

    One thing I think Trump nailed correctly was "The Establishment." It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few years...
     
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    It is always the people Vs. The Establishment.
     
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    Correct. The Left vs Right fight is an act.

    “In his love of the game and popularity in this town, Robert reminds me of another former party chairman, Democrat Terry McAuliffe– A Haley “drinking buddy,” not shockingly. They are good-time guys and “Washington fixtures” even though Barbour set off to seek the Mississippi Gov.'s mansion in 2003 and McAuliffe wants to shed the “Washington fixture” label and become the next Governor of Virginia. … Haley and Terry also met in the most Washington of love incubators, the green room. They argued on TV in the 1990s, did the Right versus Left thing, and were soon doing business together.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, pp. 144,145.

    I would guess that MM gets that.
     
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    I think Nationalists are a better thing than progressive Left. Why this claim on president Trump ?

    Are they negative against one Nationalist leader like Bush Jr.

    Two french species 2 of 3 man in 2001-2017.

    Are progressive Left against french National Front ?

    All man's wanted a white president this 2016 time!!!!

    A few percent of man wanted Mrs. Clinton.

    A percentage of women wanted Trump.
     
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    Perhaps 80-20 by Clinton vs Trump women supporter. :wall:
     
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    They are all corrupt liars and crooks, most in both parties. Ideology is second to money.
     
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    George Soros is working overtime!
     
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    Lol if everyone burns down the establishment, I guess the liberals win. They sure got you, eh?
     
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    The political class is truly corrupt. IMO, most ordinary Republicans, Democrats, liberals and conservatives are well intentioned and ideologically driven, but they are systematically discouraged from ever even considering constructive viable reforms.
     
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    Soros became detached from reality and ethics when he began working for the SS to exterminate his own people. His life is an exercise in denial.
     
  24. Lil Mike

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    I forgot about that. Trump gets called a Nazi constantly, but one of Trump's biggest foes is a Nazi collaborator.

    Heh, Irony!
     

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