Lieu: ‘I Would Love to Be Able to Regulate the Content of Speech’ but First Amendment Stops Me

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The Trump administration did not just look at libel law. They understood that "opening up" the current libel laws any further would require changing the 1st Amendment, so they looked into that. Trump has also advocating legal punishments for flag burning, which is protected by free speech.
     
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    Once you support your hasty generalization, sure. :roflol:
     
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    Ted Lieu admits tyrannical desires: 'I would love to be able to regulate the content of speech'

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    Rep. Ted Lieu
    told CNN on Wednesday that his desire to regulate speech is only thwarted by the U.S. Constitution.

    An interview on Google CEO Sundar Pichai’s testimony before lawmakers with House Judiciary Committee took a tyrannical turn when the California Democrat expressed his “love” for the idea of controlling free speech.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/12/ted-lieu-admits-tyrannical-desires-i-would-love-to/
     
  5. DaveBN

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    I guess. If they saw fit I suppose they could.
     
  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    His hatred for the mainstream right is why he calls himself and others like him "ALT right."
     
  7. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. I'm sure someone's little website will easily compete with Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc..

    I see you're not interested in a reasonable discussion on the issue.

    So be it.
     
  8. DaveBN

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    Oh boy! Another selective quote to generate outrage. Did you check out his full statement? Might cool your britches a bit.
     
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    If there is enough demand for the content, then sure they can compete. If there isn't enough demand, then tough. Government-provided popularity isn't a thing. There is no such thing as the right to be popular. This is how markets work. If you want to make a living, you have to sell stuff people want.
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it gets about 1/20th the combined traffic of the liberal media, but I guess they are able to profit.
     
  11. DaveBN

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    There’s plenty of right leaning space on the internet. Why have they not gained more traction?
     
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    I would guess because they aren't promoted by the MSM and Hollywood, and as people are learning, they are being suppressed by Google, Yahoo and other liberal biased platforms.
     
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    “It’s a very good point you make,” Mr. Lieu replied... “I would love to be able to regulate the content of speech..."

    Viewers on The Washington Free Beacon’s YouTube channel were stunned at the lawmaker’s admission.

    “Communists don’t even try to hide now. They have the youth fully indoctrinated,”

    Mr. Lieu also admitted his desire to regulate Fox News less than 24 hours earlier.

    “Would I like to regulate Fox News?” he tweeted. “Yes..."

    And this is the battle that is shaping up; on the one side those that advocate for the rule of law and mutual respect for one another and the other side who views the world as "Us" and "Them" with the "them" less than human, deplorable, irredeemable, bitter clingers, xenophobes, bible thumpers unwilling to surrender their right to self-defense, eligible for illegal government spying and subjected to vicious scorched earth witch hunts for the same crimes that if you are an "us" results in immunity passed out like party favors, whitewashes, quiet warnings to comply with paperwork regulations and oily assurances from leaky liars "that no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute."

    A peaceful society cannot survive without the rule of law, I urge the Left turn back and preserve our peaceful society that protects us both and allows us to resolve our differences civilly.
     
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    Very good, Zorro, the Fringe Right certainly sees itself as "Us" versus "Them", everyone to the left of the Fringe Right.
     
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    Neither does 4chan, but it has plenty of users. You’re saying the content can’t gain traction on its own?
     
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    I guess I’ll quote the entirety of the conversation since you won’t.

    "It's a very good point you make," Lieu said. "I would love if I could have more than five minutes to question witnesses. Unfortunately, I don't get that opportunity. However, I would love to be able to regulate the content of speech. The First Amendment prevents me from doing so, and that's simply a function of the First Amendment, but I think over the long run, it's better the government does not regulate the content of speech."

    Did you catch the last sentence? That part where he says it’s good that his opinion isn’t enforceable under the law? I did.
     
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    Lol, asking Starkey to be objective is almost cause.
     
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    Yeah, and his ignorance that his economic stance is fundamentally left wing. He co-opted the "alt right" moniker from those who were first using it to show their disdain for RINOs. The latter group now refers to themselves and "right lite" because of Richard Spencer.
     
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    Yes and then they dropped it. And there it was about the law, laws on the books. Not just threatening a person.
     
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    They'd probably get more Traffic if they didn't dismiss libertarian-esq conservatives like Ron Paul. They lost my viewership back in 2012 when they refused to cover Ron's top 2 position in the GOP nomination events.
     
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    When the intent of the protest is to disrupt and prevent another person from exercising their fundamental civil rights it becomes a government issue as in the LAW.
     
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    That's what he said he would LOVE to do, sorry you can't just simply dismiss it out of hand. Fortunately we DO have a 1st Amendment to protect us from such politicians.
     
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    No he was walking it back at that point.
     
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    Depends when and where the Free speech is occurring, if its causing a disturbance, and whether one party decides to make it a physical interference to the protesting group or individual.
     

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