Double Bunko... Israel is peppered with archeological sites that illustrate and substantiate their ancient history. The only artifact that the Arabs left on the Historical Land of Israel is the droppings of their Camels, sheep and beasts of burden.
They are not under occupation! Israel disangegged from Gaza in 2005, and left them (=the Arabs) to rule themselves, to make them own elections. The result of those elections was the take over of Hamas in 2007 and killing of Fatah mambers. Probably you refering to the blockade, right? so the blockade on Gaza is Hamas fault not Israel! Hamas after taking over Gaza, canceled all agreements that the Arabs have been signed on with Israel, so the Israeli counter action was the blockade. Here you go another thing in Gaza that is Hamas fault. Would "the slave" hurt other "slaves" or would they try to do it on "their master"? and if so how could you explain the fact that Hamas is killing Arabs in Gaza just like that, pull out from thei vehaicles and just shot where ever. The Arabs in Gaza, or more precislly, the fanatics are not firltering the media? really? because BBC think other wise (and they are not so Israel's fans): [video=youtube;hCdEj-cewOc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCdEj-cewOc[/video] Source: http://elderofziyon.blogspot.co.il/2014/07/bbc-exposes-pallywood-lies-in.html#.U76RDcvlqDY Israel is allowing world media to come into Israel and say what ever they like to say about the conflict, the Israeli government have more important stuff to do then to supervise over the world media. There are alot of world wide channels that criticize Israel, and Israel not really do something to those channels. Israel's news commentators say alot of stupid stuff, but thats how democracy work i think, by letting verious of people to speak their mind without to be errested or kill them. Ok and...?
Apparently you are mesmerized by present events... when realistically the Jewish people, the Hebrews and the Israelites were dispersed by Emperor Hadrian, Titus and Vespanianus before him... The word/nomenclature <Palestinian> was coined by Arafat and Nasser in 1964 long after the demise of the Ottoman Empire which ruled this area for 400 years from 1517 to 1917... The British General Allenby conquered Jerusalem and Damascus in 1917... Britain received a Mandate at the San Remo conference to rule that area, the Land was awarded to the Jews because of THEIR CONNECTION with the Land of Israel. The Jews of Hadrian dispersal are trickling back to the Land of their forefathers... This is the Land of the Jews from time immemorial. Please go open a book on the history of the region check what I stated and do not rehash a faux scoop from the PLO syllabus.
Utter Dreck - Rubbish. Read and learn : "]The Palestinian people (Arabic: الشعب الفلسطيني‎, ash-sha‘b al-Filasṭīnī, also referred to as Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون‎, al-Filasṭīniyyūn, Hebrew: פָלַסְטִינִים, are the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries, and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab due to Arabization of the region] Despite various wars and exoduses, roughly one half of the world's Palestinian population continues to reside in historic Palestine, the area encompassing the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Israel.[24] In this combined area, as of 2004, Palestinians constituted 49% of all inhabitants,[25] encompassing the entire population of the Gaza Strip (1.6 million), the majority of the population of the West Bank (approximately 2.3 million versus close to 500,000 Jewish Israeli citizens which includes about 200,000 in East Jerusalem), and 16.5% of the population of Israel proper as Arab citizens of Israel.[26] Many are Palestinian refugees or internally displaced Palestinians, including more than a million in the Gaza Strip,[27] three-quarters of a million in the West Bank,[28] Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool.[31] Since the time of the Muslim conquests in the 7th century, religious conversions have resulted in Palestinians being predominantly Sunni Muslim by religious affiliation, though there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority of various Christian denominations, as well as Druze and a small Samaritan community. Though Palestinian Jews made up part of the population of Palestine prior to the creation of the State of Israel, few identify as "Palestinian" today. Acculturation, independent from conversion to Islam, resulted in Palestinians being linguistically and culturally Arab.[16] The vernacular of Palestinians, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Many Arab citizens of Israel including Palestinians are bilingual and fluent in Hebrew. During the Mandatory Palestine period,(before the creation of Israel ) the term "Palestinian" was used to refer to all people residing there, regardless of religion or ethnicity, MORE here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people
jewish ppl converted to judaism, it really is not logical to suggest that russinas and polish are descended from Israelites. this is nothing more than political strategy in order to populate the region with europeans so europe can become THE dominant power in the region.
Not really, all the people that came from Europw were ALL JEWS... Only JEWS can return home to repopulate it... the others are temporary residents or tourists. Just relax and read more about the subject... besides I live here you DO NOT!!!
A lot of people converted to Christianity, others to Buddhism, even to Islam etc., Do I use this analogy against them? NO I* DO NOT... for a person that converts to <Judaism> is a Jew in my eyes period no matter what he was before. Neturei Karta OTH cannot be converted to Judaism they are anti Jews par excellence, and they would dance in the street if Israel would be in danger.
Shlomo Sand of a twisted mind has finally managed to sell you a text that he himself invented to keep himself alive. Generally speaking people who read this scatology are either anti Jew or belonging to the 10,000 Neturei Karta warped minds worldwide. "It is not because they are Neturei Karta that they are evildoers. It is because they are evildoers that they are Neturei Karta." Rabbi H. Bendor. If you call Freund a Rabbi I am a yellow submarine.
ididnt state that was why they converted. istated that the idea that jewish ppl in israel are of european extraction is a political strategy.
Muslims have displaced other Muslims, across the Middle East and in larger number than there were Palestinians on land that is now Israel. Somehow they moved on from that... And as far as taking territory as spoils of war, that you did not start but won, I hear many objections to Israel but what about the Muslims that just invaded Iraq, etc? Don't even get me started on the death counts... 100 s of thousands at the hands of other Muslims but you wanna talk about 100 in Palestine? All human life is valuable. But, you lose credibility when the only killings of your people you object to happen to be at the hands of Israelis.
1. And then there was. 2. It is their state and they can dictate their own immigration policies like any other state. 3. Enforcing their laws. Look, the people in that area got a crap deal. That's how it goes. It happened all over this planet. Countries break up, new countries get created, civilians get screwed. It happens and you deal with it and move on a create a life for your families elsewhere. I personally don't care whether there is any historical biblical claim for either side. At this point, Israel is here and it isn't going anywhere. To spend your lives (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing and fighting about it are robbing your families and the future generations of a life. Concentrate your efforts on forward mobility. Stop looking back at possible injustices and rise above. The Middle East is huge, surely your Arab neighbors can take you in and you can join the community and better your lives. Israel is but a tiny slice of land, small price to pay for peace and civility.
WHAT IS PALESTINE? WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ReF4UUa4E Egyptian doctor: stop exploiting Palestine as wedge against \https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0m3RghOcFo#t=34
You know what I think? Well, if you care, what I think, about the neverending levant crisis, is quite complex. There's always been Jews in the area. Not always much, but it is indeed the home nation of the Jews (the people, not the religion). Likewise, the "Palestinians" are, as much as the Jews that always lived there, from the same "racial stuff" as all the other people that ever lived there. Natural inhabitants. So, both "races" (the semitic people, in fact) should be more or less cousins, with mere beliefs separating them. They both have genetic attachment to the land. So both should share it, either in the same confederacy or as separate nations. Sounds simple, right? Well that's probably what would have happened if the Balfour Declaration didn't happened. I believe (since we are now reaching that particular aspect of the discussion) the mass jewish immigration after WWII (and the ones before that but to a lesser point) was illegitimate. The Jews that forcibly got there were, in my personal yet quite recognized opinion, Khazarian stuff that adopted the Jewish faith centuries ago. These guys' only valid claim to Israel/Palestine is religious, not genetic. And religious claims are IMO, invalid. If I become a Jew tomorrow, I could claim Israel as my "home nation"? That's utterly ridiculous. Let these Ukrainians have a Vatican-like city-state in Jerusalem instead of creating havok in the whole region at large for nearly a century now (fear not - we'll get there), right? You know the joke about the guy who got a thumb graft, but the new thumb rejected all the rest of the host body? That's a nice metaphor of Israel, in my most humble opinion. Thanks for your time.
I'm always happy to hear someone else's opinion. The Arabs that live in Israel have the right to live there, of course! i never said otherwise, I'm happy to live beside Arabs that respect me, and of course i respect them. It is the extremists that I'm against. The idea you are talking about "seperate nations", Great Britain, in the Mandate period, said it aswell! They published the First White Book that call of Transjordan for the Arabs led by Abdullah, and the Westarn Transjordan for the Jews, but the Arabs didnt agree to it. There were also Jews outside the Land of Israel that they are the decendens of the generation that exodus took place, so there were Jews after WWII that have genetic connection to the Land of Israel. Thats why I disagree with the asumption that people have that "we have the right on this land because god gave it to us"- it is stupid to tell you the truth! I'm only driven by facts and history. Thats why I'n saying that extremists from both sides should be stopped! and immidiatly.
unfortunately, the matter at hand is what is pressing palestinians atm, it's doubtful whether they would have concerns about what is happening in say Mali for example but then again that would require the wider community to appreciate the bigger picture aswell, something that is all too encompassing for many to acknowledge, given the comfort of their gated community. Out of ignorance?? idk, isometimes do wonder though.
lol!!!! pardon? there are millions of Jews in Europe. And millions of Jews came to the USA from Europe early last century.
youre entitled to believe whatever you like, its none of my business. Many ppl believe in santa claus too, my nephew does, he's 3. You think im gonna go tell him that santa isnt real but just an invention? That would be cruel, he's only 3.
AFAI can tell Freund is indeed a Rabbi - if that makes you a yellow sub - then so be it.: : Freund is a True Torah Jew. Rabbi Avraham Yoshe Freund of Nasoder Rebbe "True Torah Jews is dedicated to informing the world and in particular the American public and politicians that all Jews do not support the ideology of the Zionist state called "Israel" which is diametrically opposite to the teachings of traditional Judaism. We are concerned that the widespread misconception that all Jews support the zionist state and its actions endangers Jews worldwide. We are NOT politically motivated. We are motivated by our concern for the peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state. We support and pray for peace for the people of the Zionist state but have no interest in and do not support the Zionist government. We seek to disassociate Jews and traditional Judaism from the Zionist Ideology by: Providing historical and supporting documentation that Zionism is totally contrary to the teachings of traditional Judaism through the words of our Rabbis, Sages, and Holy Scriptures which oppose the creation of a state called Israel. Providing historical documentation on the ideaology and creation of Zionism, the supporters of Zionism and the negative impact of their actions on the Jewish people in the past hundred years, including their involvement in the holocaust up to the present day. Publicizing the efforts of traditional Jews to demonstrate that all Jews do not support Zionism, which is being ignored by the mainstream media. Convince the news media, politicians and the public to cease referring to the state of Israel as the "Jewish State" but to call it what it is: the "Zionist State". It is our firm belief that when the state of "Israel" is recognized for what it is, a Zionist state which is not guided by the teachings of the traditional Jewish faith, Jews worldwide will be able to live in peace. http://www.zoominfo.com/s/#!search/profile/company?companyId=278053331&targetid=profile
there aren't millions of Jews in Europe? there aren't millions of Jews in the USA? lol!!!! whatever man.
no, youre a bit of a skeptic arent you but like istated, youre entitled to your beliefs, im not about to poop on them dont worry
