Local Charge upgraded to first-degree murder for driver accused of ramming Charlottesville crowd

You don't, that's my point. Thanks for the confirmation, kid.

So's how age 20 treating you? Going to college or just hangin' out, smokin' pot with your buds?

 

he deliberately drove into the crowd

 

Not according to him. He said "he was in fear for his life and hit the gas instead of the brake" and that has been enough to get many people off in VA for shooting people many times.

 

The problem wasn't so much manpower as it was the inaction of the state and local police before, during and after the protests and the cops on the streets don't issue their own orders.

As for the street Heather Heyer was killed on, that should have been blocked by a cop and his/her vehicle as is standard procedure.

This article provides details of how the violence in C'ville was allowed to occur as well as a link to the full Hunton & Williams report that the excerpts were drawn from:

Charlottesville Police Chief: ‘Let Them Fight’
JOHN SEXTON
Posted at 7:01 pm on December 2, 2017
https://hotair.com/archives/2017/12/02/charlottesville-police-chief-let-fight/

Permit me to say this - Virginians on both the Left and the Right are 1) angry that this violence was allowed to occur and 2) are demanding accountability. Civil rights and public safety are not partisan issues - no one should fear for their lives when they exercise their constitutional rights and our public officials and agencies are paid and tasked to prevent the violence that was allowed to occur. I get that no one is perfect and there is always the prospect of a breakdown in security but in my estimation that is not what happened in C'ville last August.

 

...and OJ is innocent.

 

There were ways to avoid this, one of the ways - being smart enough not to block an open street, another being not showing up as the aggressor at a rally you don't agree with and just letting it go. Had these happened, that nutjob wouldn't have had people in the street to hit.

Pay your respects, but if you ever attend a counter protest like this, stay out of the street.

 

I think this could have been avoided but our fearless leaders wanted it to be something they could use politically. IMO, both sides were scum bags and idk if this girl was just a bystander or an antifa POS but the blood is on the hands of the left.

 

Your point?

 

Appears to be fake news: https://www.snopes.com/were-police-told-stand-down-charlottesville/

However, I'm content to see what Trump's Feds and/or AG Sessions does about it.

 

He's lying about hitting the gas instead of the brake because he's a cowardly ****wad.

 

it certainly gets the police free. not sure what the precedant is for his case. imo, he deliberately drove into the crowd, and then left the scence and did not report it.

 

We can see that this is becoming very political with Leftists, who are usually associated with being anti capital punishment. They're quite excited because this guy is a "Neo Nazi". "White Supremacist", "Fascist" or whatever other disparaging political terms they may use.

Whatever this guys politics are, and no matter how much we may disagree with them, they should not be related to his guilt or innocence. That should be left to the facts in the case and not subject to the emotional cries of the mob.

 

And likely planned to.

 

Yes. You can have a very effective force with the right training and you can have a very successful effect on a counter protest like this with the right decisions and strategic moves.

 

The authorities I contacted have my real name and address, but I didn't waste my time contacting anyone who takes orders from Terry McAuliffe and Michael Singer. Keep in mind, I'm hardly the only person who has expressed their dissatisfaction with them over this matter:



There have been calls for Mayor Singer's resignation but he's not about to do the right thing and step down.

Don't be silly.

McAuliffe and Singer were responsible for maintaining public safety and order in Charlottesville on August 12 and they failed to do that, which led to widespread violence and the death of a protester.

I would have preferred that they resigned, but that didn't happen and it's not going to happen. Thankfully, term limits will be ending Gov. McAuliffe's tenure soon. I don't know about Singer, but he's not my mayor. It's up to the people of Charlottesville to deal with him.

 

By what evidence?

 

He certainly did. I would expect the defense to argue that he was being pursued by a violent mob and was trying to escape.

More video may reveal clearly when the pursuit started. It will be interesting to see the defense explanation for his presence on that street heading toward that crowd. He has had every opportunity to tie himself into a knot, and extremists usually like to talk - a lot. I think the jury will want to tag him for first degree murder.

 

If you chose to not read what is provided to you or to put up blinders that is on you.

 

when i attend counter protests like this i can and will block off everything that can possibly be blocked off

bit of both. you don't balance two jobs with college without some chemically assisted stress relief.

 

Why would he have to explain his presence on that road when three other cars were in front of him? Ask yourself how you are "protesting racism" by blocking streets.

 

Socialism is wrong in that it is a failed system. Yet other than full blown socialism one would be hard pressed to make a successful argument that a political or economic system is unconstitutional. My argument that Marxist - socialism is unconstitutional would be centered on the right to own property. Full blown MARXIST - socialism renders all land and all means of production to the state hence leaves no right to personal property. One can and should be able to make the argument that MARXIST -socialism is unconstitutional on objective grounds.

Anti-Americanism is another breed of cat. Anti-Americanism is a subjective and an emotional concept.

Social security is actually a light aspect of non fatal non aggressive socialism. People have attempted to argue that it is unconstitutional but it does not seem as if such a suit got very far did it.

 

Outside of pissing off people that have nothing to do with what you are protesting what does blocking roads accomplish?

 

All correct. All it takes is lots of time and money. Money, in this case, means higher taxes.

 

True, and it's the governor's job to ensure public safety throughout the state.

What tax cuts?

There was more than enough manpower in C'ville on August 12, Max. Not only was there plenty of local police, the state police was there to back them up as well as units from the Virginia National Guard.

 

Sometimes it's just a matter of will, not money. This is one of those cases...