'Lock your doors, load your guns', Kentucky sheriff warns after suspending law enforcement

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Except all those Democrats in office.
     
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    Yup, looks like a hockey stick to me.
    Unwinding and erasing the social contract and dismantling the New Deal has created consequences.
     
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    It just boils down to what kind of a country and what kind of a society we decide we want to have. If you want a society where every man (or woman) who works hard at their full time job (no matter what it is) can count on the basics, namely, adequate basic food, basic health care, higher education to better oneself, and a roof, and you want your community to be able to count on protection from crime and fire, and to have safe infrastructure, you're going to have to tax people, and the wealthiest among us are going to have to acknowledge their responsibility to help invest in our future.

    Or...you can count on having a plantation instead, where the wealthy live in comfort and the peasants live in squalor.

    Victim blaming looks like victim blaming, and the wealthiest and most powerful among us ain't the victims, and they're not feeling the consequences, and victim blamers look like liars.
     
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    unless a budget is passed with a veto proof majority, it is entirely on the president whether it is law, or vetoed. So, Reagan owns every budget he signed. So does every other president.
     
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    No; you're just too blind to see that both sides of the partisan duopoly are equally guilty of dishonesty, cronyism, and graft.
     
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    I am not talking "back in those days". Since 1972 Kentucky politics has been dominated by Democrats.
     
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    And this tiny county in Kentucky not having enough money to run law enforcement is because some Democrats were in the State House in 1972.
    I see...

    :wall:
     
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    I was not talking "in" 1972, I said "since" 1972.

    In the last 119 years Kentucky has had 29 Governors; 22 have been Democrat. Between 1972 and 2015 all offices of Governor, Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General, Treasurer, and Auditor were held by Democrats with the exception of three. That's 62 Democrats and 3 Republicans. From 1865 to 2016 Democrats have held the majority in the State House with the exception of 4 years. It has only been since the Trump era in 2016 that Kentucky has more Republicans the states primary offices.

    I do find it interesting, since 1999 Kentucky's US Senators and Representatives have all been Republican.
     
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    How is it we don't have these budget problems in Los Angeles?
    We pay a lot of taxes, right? You know we do. But somehow, I guess it's a miracle...the potholes get fixed, PD and Sheriffs are on duty, if my neighbor's dog is peeing on my prize azaleas and decides to chew my toy poodle in half we have animal control for that.

    Are you saying that your Democrats suck? Hey dude, I am sorry about that.
    But are you guys even paying much in the way of taxes? Does Kentucky HAVE state income tax? Last I heard it was two to six percent across the board.
    Since I don't live there, I admit that I don't know what your people do with the tax money you send them.
    I don't recall sheriffs shutting down their cop shops prior to this month.
    You want to blame the Democrats while Republicans are in charge.

    Sorry, I just don't think that you're backing up that claim very well.
    Doesn't mean I won't listen. Back up your claim and I might change my mind.
     
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    this is what happens when the right cuts social services, if you want police hire private security to protect you
    if you want fire services, hire them yourself

    the right just doesn't get it, it's not every man for himself, we are a society, we are all in this together
     
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    the idea of taxing someone less per dollar cause they made more dollars, it makes no sense to me

    there should be no cap on the social security tax
    labored income should not be taxed more then investment income

    the list goes on.....

    The republican keep trying to sell trickle down... it's a lie

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    not seeing all those corp giveaways this year, and it's only the second year of the Trump tax cuts... what gives? did anyone really think the corps would be just as generous every year they got the tax cuts
     
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    My only claim was directed towards this
    I associate liberals and Democrats, Democrats and liberals. I kinda use the words interchangeably. If I misunderstood your use of the word liberal I apologize.
     
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    I agree. All income should be taxed equally.
    SS tax is not the same as income tax. Social Security was designed so the poor and those who planned poorly would have at lease a small amount of money in their old age. Taxing the rich, who won't need it, is simply turning Social Security into another form of welfare.
     
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    Well certainly at the very least, the cap should be adjusted annually, don't you think?

    HA!! Yeah, right...they were going to "make it rain all up in here" ...sure.
     
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    I looked up the list of Democrats in Kentucky and what they were like.
    They might not be Republicans, but they sure as Hell aren't and weren't lefty liberals either.
    And you know what? Kentucky is COAL COUNTRY. That means you have a whole lot of people who work themselves to the bone, son...and they don't make shee-it for wages.

    The big surprise is that they even saw fit to vote in Republicans, who are going to take away their Obamacare, cut their food stamps, kill off the Head Start programs their kids need, cut their heating assistance and pretty much do almost everything they can to turn Kentucky back into something out of a sad 1930's black and white movie.

    Sorry brother but I not only think Kentucky needs to put some Democrats back, who want to help the working man, I think I hear a lot of victim blaming. That's not a good look for anybody. And again, sheriffs closing down their cop shops did not happen until Republicans were put in charge. Blaming Democrats who left years ago is pathetic.
     
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    It's all good.

    Where I live in the Northern Rockies we have lots of newcomers from California. We have a saying that a California Republican is nothing but a Democrat when they get here. A person's views sometimes depend more on where they are and who they associate with then what they call themselves.
     
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    All true and well said except please add that a person's vulnerability may also play a factor.
     
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    In the 80's I was more or less a slightly center-right guy.
    I was married to a screenwriter, making train loads of money in production, it was all good.
    Then I got wiped out in the 1994 Northridge Quake.

    I lost about 350 thousand dollars in damaged equipment, the insurance I'd been paying dearly for was worthless because the insurance company danced through a loophole courtesy of California's crooked Republican insurance commissioner, who by the way escaped prison by the skin of his teeth, and my wife left me.
    I got two cents on the dollar for my insurance losses, which was basically nothing.

    In 1998 I married the girl I should have married in the first place, someone I had fallen in love with back in 1984. But it turned out she was by that point a 100% service connected disabled vet with a failed marriage, and a disabled son and a tiny daughter...in Arkansas.
    And I left Los Angeles to be with her down there, but we couldn't get married because my minimum wage job at the pallet factory would have caused her dying son to lose his health coverage, so we lived in sin.

    By 2003, I realized I had become a liberal.
     
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    Nobody's perfect.
     
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    Yeah, least of all the family values Republicans who thought nothing of denying a dying child an open heart surgery because an adult was bringing home a whopping $6.25 an hour and had married the child's mother in order to be right with Jesus.

    I'm not gay but I find it interesting that Dick Cheney was virulently anti-gay until his own daughter came out as gay. Suddenly old Dick is okay with gay marriage.

    Nobody's perfect. ;)
     
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    The wealthy STOLE the retirement 401k's of the middle class which means the wealthy need to REPAY that money by paying it back into the SS fund.
     
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    Democrats can declare a national emergency and save SS when they regain power
     
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    First, how did the wealthy steal 401K's.

    Second, how would paying it into SS help? People draw based on what they put into the system.
     
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    Touché.
     
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    The small balance 401k's have stagnated since being wiped out in the Wall Street Casino SCAM of 2008 and are virtually worthless as far as retirement goes.

    In essence at least 40% of hardworking Americans have nothing or virtually nothing to retire with given that their 401k's were already flatlining prior to being wiped out in 2008 and they have not yet recovered and probably won't in the few years they have left to work.
     

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