Lorde cancels Tel Aviv concert after pro-Palestinian fans’ backlash

The evidence abounds for these wishing to accept it

 

so you have no evidence? you just made up the claim?

how unfortunate for you

 

Not quite. The Soviet Government permitted number of Soviet Jews to apply for and to emigrate to Israel in exchange for serious concessions from Americans, which russkies badly needed at that time. In other words, the Soviet Jews were traded for wheat, machine parts and other ****!

 

most Jews in Israel from the former USSR came AFTER the Soviet fall.

 

Numerically, yes. So, whut?

 

so it had nothing to do with Soviet government policies.

 

You really are determined to see yourself as a victim, aren't you. Figures.

 

Ha!

I will see myself as the victim when that label applies

 

Great! Then stop writing posts where you act like everyone is out to get you. You are no different to 'them' really.

 

Not everyone

But the liberal conspiracy to overthrow trump is a direct threat to the democratic process that alllow me to be on the winning side of the last election

 

And I pointed out that you are wrong. I even gave you some names of nations that are doing it. Maybe if you weren't so obsessed with Israel you might know about that.

I simply used the period you laid out. Some of those nations continue to murder people, sometimes in large numbers. I didn't say the UN should condemn them, I'm simply pointing out how absurd your 'worst of the worst' quote is. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that you really aren't very well informed

Nope. There have been UN interventions and interventions by major powers (I assume the USSR counts). You are just too ignorant to be aware of it. I'm seeing a pattern here

And you are the one misrepresenting what has happened there to avoid having to face the massive inconsistency in your own position.

What a load of BS. The Russians are HELPING Syria murder its population. So are the Iranians. The US is intervening to attack the same people Syria is fighting, not to stop Syria committing mass murder. Either you know that and think I'm so dumb I'll believe you, or you are even less informed than I think you are (and I'm pretty sure I have pets who are better informed than you).

Of course, you didn't answer my questions. How many UN resolutions condemning Syria? What is the comparable number for Israel in the same period? What nations are directly intervening to stop the Syrian government committing mass murder? It is killing more people a year than Israel has killed in 70 years. Why don't you care? Maybe you would care if Jews were doing it.

 

No more than the Conservative conspiracies to overthrow Clinton & Obama. Tell yourself whatever you want, but this is the same nasty politics that has been going on in America for the past 25 years and during many periods before. Same stuff, different day. (and you can spare me the big list that proves how different this is. I've seen it already)

I must say I'm impressed that American Conservatives can take control of two branches of government (and the third on the way) and most of the states and still see themselves as victims of a vast conspiracy.

For someone who says he doesn't see himself as a victim you are doing a spectacular impersonation of someone who sees himself as a victim.

 

As I noted: None got ethnic cleansing on their agenda for the past 50 years and still going at it.

But zero in Israel when they have ethnic cleansing for 50 years non stop on their agenda, and it's still there.
Who is singled out again?

You sure showed me wrong,.. not.

They are stabilizing the country where the US and the UK did the opposite in Irak and that crapped over to Syria. The US with the UK caused MILLIONS of people to flee for their lives. Europe thanks you for that, and complaint denied.

Mass murder? It's not even anywhere close to what the US did in Vietnam.

How about you look it up yourself and make an argument?

 

Well, at least you are consistent. Deny, dodge, deflect, change the subject, argue points that were never made, refuse to answer simple questions. All pretty standard stuff when yo are losing an argument. You clearly have no problem with 300,000 dead Syrians at the hands of their own government, or 100,000+ dead Chechens & an occupied nation, but what Israel is doing is the 'worst thing ever'.

My observation about this being a pathology rather than a political position is reinforced with every post.

 

Except these, allowed to emigrate to Israel from 1977 through the Soviet Union breakout

 

which has nothing to do with Jews choosing to leave the former USSR.

 

She does have a je-ne-sais-quoi, in a girl-next-door kind of way. Maybe it's the thick, curly hair.

That being said, in her business her look is relatively plain. My nieces are quite fond of her, and not just her music. There's something to her that I just can't put my finger on.

 

I see you cowering away. You never came up with any country busy with ethnic cleansing on it's agenda today, that they had for decades.

You started to interrogate me with ramping up 4 questions in a row, which you should have been looking up yourself if you want to make a point.

Says you and you alone. And Chechnya isn't even an occupied nation.

 

I see

 

1) I did, you simply ignored them. Sudan, Russia, China, Morocco for a start;

2) You have a fair idea what the answer is going to be, which is why you continue to dodge;

3) Your lack of interest in the mountain of dead in Syria is clear. Chechenya was an independent nation for longer than Palestine and its re-occupation has been bloodier than anything Israel has done to the Palestinians (or anyone else).

You are really, really bad at this stuff. Get a new hobby.

 

I'm sick and tired of people citing polls but completely ignoring that the results of the poll depend on a number of factors that must be taken into account when interpreting the results (that's what the Bayes theorem is there for, you know).

In this particular case, the text accompanying the tables showing the results of the poll clearly states that most of the respondents have identified as right wing, which leads us to the conclusion that mostly those Israelis who identify themselves as right wing are in favor of transfer. Only when we know what percent of Israelis identify themselves as right wing and when we have more details on the methodology, can we state what percent of Israelis are in favor of transfer.

Am I the only one on this forum who ever studied statistics?

 

The UN split Sudan in half in 2005 and send soldiers there to protect the peace. Israel... none of that.
Russia is being hit very hard with sanctions in the Ukraine thing. Israel... none of that.
China, Morocco... not ethnic cleansing across their borders buddy.

I already responded that multiple nations are all over Syria doing their thing to stop the violence. Israel has none of that. Chechnya hasn't been a recognized independent nation by anybody for like a century or even more. Hence it's not seen as being occupied. Your opinion saying that it is, is irrelevant. Which is rather different than the UN saying Palestine is occupied.

So far,... nobody comes close to be on par with Israel.
No country you named, got ethnic cleansing on their agenda of things to do.

 

You (the US) killed several thousands as well, uninvited.

 

....and since 2005 Sudan has murdered something like 500,000 people and forced over 3 million from their homes because they are the wrong ethnic minority. Are you really unaware of this? The UN hasn't stopped the killing. last year the Sudanese Government was using chemical weapons. Do you really not know about this? Can you really be this ignorant?

Russia isn't being sanctioned for its genocide & occupation of Chechenya, or its occupation of parts of Georgia. There is nothing stopping those nations who disagree with Israel sanctioning it as nations have done to Russia. Nothing except their indifference to the plight of Palestinians.

Your ignorance of Chinese ethnic cleansing in Tibet and its western provinces and theft of territory by force from Vietnam & India are duly noted. So to the issue of Western Sahara, which the nations & people who scream about Israel seem not to care the slightest about. I'll add them to the lengthening list of events you are unaware of.

You really should inform yourself before talking about these things. You just look like an ill informed idiot otherwise.

Palestine has never operated as an independent nation - something for which you can blame its 'friends' in Jordan and Egypt. Chechenya was an independent nation until Russia occupied it and murdered 20% of its population. Again, your indifference to the suffering of anyone not being occupied to killed by Jews is duly noted. You don't know and/or you don't care. Instead you just keep on repeating your mantras about Israel and use your ignorance as a buttress.

I'm done educating you. it has become tedious and repetitive.

 

You need to pay closer attention.