Losses Of Ukrainian Forces

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/15/novorossiya-military-briefing-august-15-2014/

Translated by Gleb Bazov

Overall, it is becoming increasingly clear that the widely publicized offensive on Donetsk has, as expected, amounted to zilch. The Ukrainian Armed Forces does not have any more strength. It simply does not. And that is all. Moreover, the Junta forces are facing several simultaneous catastrophes on the local scale, which can become operational-tactical in nature and then strategic.

DPR The Saur-Mogila Area The counter-offensive of the DPR forces that began on August 11, 2014 resulted in the DPR army taking control of Stepanovka on August 12, 2014 and then of Marinovka in the morning of August 13, 2014. The Marinovka border crossing checkpoint (“KPP”) was taken over in the afternoon of August 13, 2014. Thereby, the Southern Cauldron 2.0 was formed. As a result, three more armoured-tank groups of the Ukrainian Armed Forces ended up being encircled. Although the Junta troops’ desperate attack on Stepanovka on August 13-14, 2014 resulted in heavy fighting on the outskirts of the village and in the settlement itself, it ultimately resulted in the attacking grouping’s complete rout. So far, the trumpeted importance of Saur-Mogila appears to offer the Ukrainian army no particular solace. This suggests that the widely advertised capture of the strategic height was nothing more than a PR move on the part of the Junta (equivalent to the Nazi Germany installing its flag on Mount Elbrus in 1942).

Snezhnoye-Miusinsk-Krasniy Luch

(DPR+LPR) The situation is under the complete control of the Militia. Although the enemy grouping has not lost its combat capability entirely yet, it has been dissected by the Militia into parts and is fighting on the defensive. Considering the importanceof the nearby road intersection for communication lines between the Republics and Russia, the elimination of this enemy grouping has been prioritized. Control over Miusinsk has been fully restored. Krasniy Luch also is firmly in the hands of the Militia.

South of Donetsk In the last few days, fierce battles were fought in the Ilovaisk area. The importance of this region is that it represents a convenient springboard for an attack into the rear of the Amvrosievka grouping of the Ukrainian forces. On the other hand, the Junta’s contemplated offensive aimed at the encirclement of Donetsk also required the taking of this city. And that is why the DPR Army fought to retain it at all costs. And not only succeeded, but defeated the advancing enemy grouping. Throughout the area, the enemy has been driven back and in the last day showed no signs of activity. It appears that the Junta has exhausted its reserves in this direction of the front (that which was available likely will be redeployed in an attempt to de-blockade and relieve the new Southern Cauldron, opening several important opportunities for the DPR Army).

West of Donetsk Apart from the foolish destruction of the bus carrying Praviy Sector militants, nothing else happened. In general, there is a lull in this section of the front.

North of Donetsk, Gorlovka, Debaltsevo Fierce battles were fought here in all the previous days. At first, there were the strikes of the Kiev forces on Nizhnyaya Krynka, the DPR Army’s junction area between Gorlovka and Yasinovataya. Simultaneously, a second strike followed from Debaltsevo on Uglegorsk. This part of the operations was aimed at the encirclement and dissection of the Donetsk-Makeevka-Gorlovka grouping of the DPR Army. Due to lack of sufficient troops the operation became bogged down without reaching its goals. Yesterday, the DPR Army commenced its counter-offensive. Yasinovataya is once again controlled by the DPR. The development of the offensive in the direction of Panteleimonovka will cut off the enemy strike group from the rest of the forces. Near Gorlovka the enemy has lost dozens of armoured vehicles, essentially losing its strike capabilities. Moreover, the grouping of Mozgovoi has started an offensive into the rear of Debaltsevo. As of this morning, battles were being fought on the outskirts of the city. The threat to the Junta in losing Debaltsevo is the creation of yet another cauldron. At the same time, the battlefield here has been radically transformed. The Junta is no longer advancing, but rather is doing its best not to end up encircled in new cauldrons.

LPR South of Lugansk The Russian humanitarian convoy awoke the hostilities from hibernation also on this front. The goal of derailing the convoy has prompted the Junta’s leadership to organize an attack on Novosvetlovka-Khryashchevatoye. The goal here is to cut off the remaining open road that enabled the supply of the Lugansk garrison. The initial success (caused by the suddenness of the strike) has turned into a complete rout. As of this morning, the units of Battalion Aidar were crushed in the area of Khryashchevatoye (the Junta has admitted 22 dead and 36 wounded). In the area of Novosvetlovka, the units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (totaling up to a company of tanks and a company of motorized infantry) sustained significant losses (losing up to half of the tanks). Right now, the LPR Army is engaged in artillery suppression and elimination of the entrenched grouping. A day or two, and here also everything will be over.

Conclusions Whatever one’s attitude may be with respect to the latest resignations (Strelkov, Bolotov), but … it was after these resignations that the general staff of the Militia’s Armed Forces was created, such that it can now properly be called an army. This is so because central command was the one thing that the Militia lacked to function as such. The result of this coordination is already apparent. Moreover, by formally giving the leadership of the Republics a purely Ukrainian appearance, this transformation has provided the Army of the Southeast with the capacity to start solving tasks outside the borders of the Republics. Not only military ones, but political objective as well. The centralization of the military command will also oust the remnants of Makhnovism, which have been discrediting the movement. And so, a radical turn in the war no longer is just fast approaching. It is already visible with a naked eye.

Among the Junta forces, increasingly, it is not the names of regular units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that we see flash in the briefings, but those of militarized battalions. This is a direct consequence of the losses that were suffered by the Junta troops in the last several weeks, resulting in units of the second line comingto the forefront. This forced transformation immediately aggravated the losses of the Ukrainian strike groups (the example of Ilovaisk is quite telling in that regard). In other words, the most battleworthy units of the Junta have either already been exterminated (the 72 , the 79 , the 51 , and parts of the 24 Brigads), or are currently blockaded in cauldrons (the 80 , the 95 , the 30 , and parts of the 24 Brigade). At the same time, the militarized battalions that were left holding the front cannot compare to the regular army despite all their patriotic zealotry. In other words, at the front we are observing an equalization of forces not only in terms of quantity (particularly in military hardware), but also in terms of quality (in fact, quality-wise, the Army of the Southeast already has an appreciable advantage).

 

Lmfao, and the fact that the rebel leadership continues to resign and flee one after another is even more proof of how swell it's going for the Russian terrorist scum. Face it. In few weeks the rebels will be finished and the only thing Russia can do to stop the Ukrainians from bringing peace and order to their own nation is to invade.

 

Funny thing is that is it is Ukrane, who is biggest terrorist in it. By bombing of the cities, killing civilians and throwing thousands of it's cannon fodder to a meat grinder (3000 killed in southern cauldorn alone) .

I hope we do invade and kill all the bad guys.

 

3000 Ukrainian soldiers killed in the southern cauldron alone huh? So your Another one of those guys that doesn't even have the slightest clue how many people have died during this entire conflict? lol. Ok let me educate you. The current death toll is currently estimated at 2086. This automatically disproves your claim that "3000 in the southern cauldron alone". The estimate is currently at 450+ Ukrainian soldiers dead, 800+ Russian rebels, and 800+ civilians of which is included the 300 killed in the rebel attack on the MA flight. So that's roughly 500 civilians left that may or may not have been killed by Ukrainian forces. Id guess that half were killed by the Ukrainians and half were killed by the Russians do that's 250 each.

http://rt.com/news/180020-ukraine-death-toll-un/

And you ignored the question. Why is the rebel leadership running for the hills and abandoning their men if they are "doing so well"???

 

DONETSK, August 15. /ITAR-TASS/. Militia in Ukraine's self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) claimed a major victory on Friday, saying they had destroyed the Goryn battalion recruited in the Rivne region, western Ukraine.

DNR fighters said the enemy had suffered heavy casualties in manpower and equipment. Part of the Goryn servicemen were taken prisoner, they said, adding that no precise figures were available at the moment.

A DNR militiaman involved in the clash said the battalion was destroyed in Grad multiple missile launchers' attack near the border with Russia.

ITAR-TASS does not yet have confirmation of the report from other sources.

 

So... Nothing?

 

This is a very positive development for stabilization in Ukraine. There were no "Ukraine news" in MSNBC. No new there is a good news. I hope the movement against the Maidan junta will spread westward across Ukraine. EU and USA leaders thought that Carpathian region of Ukraine can represent entire country and rule it with help of NATO and EU. It was a big miscalculation. Blame Putin now.

 

The junta in Kiev are nothing but inept stooges. The tide is beginning to turn against them. Anti-war protests around the country with strong dissension in Transcarpathia, public burning of conscription papers, battlefield losses and, oh yeah, Ukraine is broke and winter is coming.

Poroshenko needs a gamechanger to turn this thing around before his puppet-masters abandon him. The airline shootdown thingy didn't work out so well. Maybe another Plan 'B'?

 

i think you're ruining their charade.

 

This is a translation from today's Greekdefense.net. It cheers me when the ones killed are the Nazis of the Right Sector, not so when it's the conscripted Ukrainian soldiers.

Complete destruction of the Ukrainian battalion Goryn by the Self-Defense Forces. Destroyed a battalion of 300 men of the Ukrainian National Guard consisting of the neo-Nazi Right Sector in an ambush near the Russian-speaking/ Russian border. Self-Defense Forces of Donetsk (DNR) captured dozens of prisoners. This is the guild Goryn which had formed in the vicinity of Rivne.

According to the Self-Defense Forces the battalion was ambushed and destroyed with Grad rockets from arrays Buk-21 and artillery. The ambush took place in the south of Donetsk between the city and the Russian border.

The battalion Goryn was known for its brutality and killings of civilians and Russian-speaking prisoners. The fact of the destruction was confirmed by the same Ukrainian regime which announced that "the guild Goryn no longer exists." According to the Russian-speaking Ukrainians (their) losses were huge, and they are talking about a great victory at a critical moment.

 

Your post matches up with my earlier post (#56).

It has to be demoralizing for the junta to see its shock troops getting trounced.

 

A few words here. A few weeks ago the Ukrainian dead were over ten thousand, and recently the locals are saying the trucks with the bodies are heading in all different directions. It seems the government is fearful of telling the parents that their boys have died, and I don't doubt that later on they'll be saying they were sent to Russian prison camps and were killed...or something like that.

I recall President Putin being upset on how Poroshenko was sending these boys to fight when they were not well trained, although lately the Donbas militia said that the ones who survived have more battle skill and will be harder to defeat. It's pathetic seeing all those tanks burning and knowing that there are young boys inside of them, who really had nothing to do with Maidan and the criminals in Kiev.

As for Strelkov, he and the others resigned so an official army would be formed with Ukrainian officers. Strelkov is Russian. It's a political move, and I'm sure his genius and strategies will still be utilized.

 

Yeah. I feel kinda bad though. I'm sensing that these guys have no lives and this propaganda is the only source of joy for them and I'm ruining it. Notice how none of them have even so much as acknowledged my assertion let alone challenged it?

 

10,000???? Are you freaking kidding lol.

http://rt.com/news/180020-ukraine-death-toll-un/

Love the spin your putting on the rebel leaders fleeing like the cowards they are. Oh it's a political move so blah blah blah. The fact is they realized they are beaten and their getting the hell outa dodge before the ax comes down. Their sheep have to stay and fight and die of course.

 

I didn't realize you had posted it. It's nice though to know that the ones being killed are the ones who should be killed and not the ones who had nothing to do with Maidan. There are mothers in Kiev protesting to have their boys come home. They probably have been killed. One woman said she has two children and their father was taken. I read that many of the boys are running off to the woods or other places to hide so they won't be conscripted.

 

Not going to respond? That's cool. Keep living in your fantasy world. Just proves that you know I'm right.

 

There was an incident a few days ago where more Right Sector bit the dust. Kiev confirms they lost 12 guys in that assault.

I posted about it earlier on a different thread. Here it is:

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Photos, video and story at link: (Graphic)

http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/53565.html

As the correspondents of the Committee of social communications (CSC) of the DPR, – a bus with the militants of "Right sector" was driving from the side of Zaporozhye in the direction of Donetsk. On one of the checkpoints the Ukrainian punitive troops opened fire on the positions of the DPR army. As a result of a firefight more than ten militants were eliminated, which were armed not only with firearms but also with grenade launchers. The criminals were wearing expensive imported camouflage. Despite the effect of surprise, the DPR fighters operatively repelled the attack. The losses on our side – 1 wounded.

 

I made a mistake, I assumed the ten thousand were Ukrainian soldiers, but it seems it covers the civilians who were killed as well. I didn't realize that so many civilians were killed. As for the Donbas militia, it's minimal in comparison thanks to Strelkov and their former experiences in places like Bosnia and Chechnya. This is what I found:


...More than ten thousand people have been killed in Kiev’s punitive operation in southeastern Ukraine since April, said a Ukrainian parliamentary group. The MPs addressed the president urging to declassify information on citizens killed.

The Ukrainian parliamentary group “For peace and stability” said on Friday that the figure was given by volunteer groups working in the east of the country, ITAR-TASS reported.

“We have estimated that just in the first two weeks of July nearly 2,500 Ukrainian soldiers were killed in the area of the ‘anti-terrorist operation’,” the group said in a statement in the Verhovnaya Rada (Ukraine’s parliament).

“The number of wounded during the same period was more than 5,000 people. Thousands of civilians fell victim to military actions. Most of them died from shrapnel wounds. Thus, the preliminary number of the Ukrainians killed during the anti-terrorist operation, is more than 10,000 people according to our estimates,” said the co-chairman of the parliamentary group, Sergey Gorokhov.

The MPs also addressed Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and the government, urging to “declassify the official data on the amount of people - civilians, Ukrainian soldiers, and everyone who took part in the anti-terrorist operation – who were killed.”

Gorokhov stated that the president receives a report on the people killed in the operation every day, but it is classified. Meanwhile, the families of those missing in the military operation zone petition the government each day in the “hope that their close ones will be found,” he added...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3190740/posts?page=17

 

10,000 people have NOT BEEN KILLED. The death toll as of the 14th of this month is 2086. That's civilians, Ukrainian soldiers, and Russian rebels. 450 Ukrainian military. 800 Russian rebels and 800 civilians which include the 300 killed by the downing of the MA flight. This information is from freaking RT!!! Where you are getting this "10,000 dead" is beyond me but it is utter crap. Admit it.

 

Notice how the Nazis of the Right Sector have expensive armor while the regular
army a few weeks ago surrendered because it said they didn't have food or water for a week. One has to wonder if these things are intentional, since the conscripts are Russian speaking, while the Right Sector Nazis hate the Russians.

Could all the deaths in the Ukrainian army simply be another form of ethnic cleansing? A Ukrainian group which hacked Governor Kolomoisky talking to someone else, mentioned how they forced a doctor to take a body organ from a wounded soldier, and I know Putin has an arrest warrant out for Kolomoisky for using white phosperous. Today it was used twice again on Donetsk.

 

If the amount of soldiers deaths were not excessive, don't you think that they would have defeated the Donbas militia by now, I mean there are only a few thousand of them and they have very limited arms? Why does Poroshenko need to conscript more and more men? Think about it?

 

That has got to be, one of the stupidest mentalities Iv ever seen. A few thousand. Fighting a guerrilla warfare is hard no matter who you are. The rebels are hiding amongst the women and children. They are armed, trained, and supported by the Russian military. Unlike the ridicules claims you have made, the Ukrainians DO CARE about civilian casualties. If they didn't why don't they just scorch earth those two rebel rat holes and kill everyone in an hour? Apply that to you logic.

The reason they are recruiting so much is because Russia us sitting on their doorstep with the threat of invasion at any given second for any givin reason. There's linearly no chance Ukraine would survive that invasion. But by god they will defend their home no the less. Use some of the common (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sense god gave you for Christ sakes.

Of course that number has reason over the past few days. You can add to the 2086 however many Russian soldiers were killed when they tried to move that armored convoy into the Ukraine today.

 

So many Heroic lives lost and so many losses just to defend the integrity of Ukraine.

 

These are Jeannettes 'sponsored' figures so I wouldn't take the actuality of them too seriously if you check their source

 

That was a while ago, it's probably a lot more men now. It seems Poroshenko is taking out his frustration on the civilian population, because they're bombing and killing them without a reason other than to change the ethnic composition of the area for political expediency.

The more they bomb and terrorize the people, the more they will leave to escape it. It's a pity because all they wanted to do was federalize, I mean Germany is federalized, Switzerland is and I think we still are, but I'm not sure.