Losses Of Ukrainian Forces

This is certainly a neo Nazi job: "4. There is also this unverified information. In the Rostov region, there were a series of bizarre murders on the M4 highway. Unknown criminals lay out a strip with nails across the asphalt, and then shoot the drivers that come out to see what was the matter. They do not take the cars, or personal belongings of those killed. There were 3 or 4 such cases. There is a suspicion that there may some Ukrainian Neo-Nazis at work. We are checking the information. Overall, we are seeing the war in the Donbass completely change direction, in real time. But the victory is not yet assured, and in the coming days, the junta will do everything possible to turn this difficult situation in their favor. "

Ukrainian nationalism is essentially anti cultural movement generated in Lvov. What they can offer instead of what Ukraine has in a form of publications in Russian language? They have very little of their own to offer. Back to dark ages. Almost like Taliban in Afghanistan.

 

Some fresh ones:

 

Elf, Vladimir Putin was the only one that voiced a concern towards the boys being sent off to die because they didn't have enough training and mentioned that Poroshenko was killing off his own gene pool.

Here is the first press conference given by the newly formed army of Donetsk. The officer explains that federalizing was possible three months ago when they asked for a referendum, but today it is impossible because too much blood has been shed. This interview is a must for anyone who doesn't understand what this war is really about, and how it started centuries ago with the first imposition of Western values on the Eastern Orthodox world. Russia fought every imposition since then and won, and Russia will always fight them and win. This is a very informative video and should be watched from beginning to end.

Anyway according to him the Ukrainian casualties run into the tens of thousands, and he wants the mothers and wives to know that the men who Poroshenko says are missing in action are all dead. He mentions where they have been buried by the Ukrainian army, and says that many of them were weighed down with rocks and thrown into the lake at Slaviansk.

[video=youtube;yH35raTPVu8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH35raTPVu8#t=1694[/video][/QUOTE]

 

Thank you, cannon fodder, for dying for oligarhs' intersts.

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KGB, please will you put a prior warning on pics of this nature. Thanks.

 

Meanwhile DNR have issued an ultimatum towards Ukr forces, trapped in a cauldorn near village Artemvroisievka, to surrender. If they do surrender all their weapons and promise not to fight against DNR and LNR, it is said they will be allowed to walk free. If not, it is promised that they will be annigilated.
It is estimated 7 000 troops trapped over there. Of course, you won't see that in Ukranian and Western MSM.

Their version:



Intelligent poster may ask how the hell humanitarian convoy made it to Lugansk, if it was totally permanently encircled or what are those mysterious forces to the south of Novorossia, despite Ukies were thrown out of there like 3 weeks ago (as a result of a first cauldorne).
Real life:




Just one more thing I find ultimately funny. When Ukraine was advansing, Ukr MSM was saying they are fighting "terrorists", but when they have their asses kicked, their rhetorics switches to "fighting Russian army". Poor bastards are looking for cheap excuses for their defeats.

Of course.

 

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/08/august-26th-combat-sitrep-by-juan-two.html?m=1


1. The situation has improved in Novorossiya but is still quite serious. The enemy still has an overwhelming advantage in hardware and men and in some instances shows they know how to use that preponderance.

2. As the Army of Novorossiya goes about it's task of freeing cities, towns and villages they are followed by what relief is available for the newly freed citizens. Also in the follow up are trained investigators who have been keeping detailed records and evidence of the depredations of the occupying forces. While the hanging tree will not be used, there is no doubt that some of the occupiers will be in prison for a long time.

3. The rumors of a large USA tank force in the Talakivka area are false.

4. The relief column of humanitarian aid sent to Lugansk City was welcome. It is of vast interest that USA and EU have warned RF not to do it again. Perhaps when the war is over some of those western political types should be brought to Novorossiya (preferably in chains) to explain to the citizens why they should be denied aid under the remorseless bombardments of the Ukeland army.

5. The new Cauldron in south central liberated territory of Novorossiya is being steadily reduced. The occupants have been given the choice of surrender themselves and their equipment or die. At the moment their commanders have chosen that they die. Of interest is the units trapped in the cauldron are the ones whose depredations against the innocent civilians are well documented as being the worst.

6. The rumors that Poroshenko will surrender today are false. He is still extolling his 'peace plan' of the Army of Novorossiya lays down their arms, gets investigated by Ukeland, anyone suspected of crimes against Ukeland will be imprisoned, and then he will negotiate.

7. The airfields in Donetsk City proper and Lugansk City proper have not been assaulted beyond bombardments as of 05:00 this morning. Both are honeycombed with underground service passageways and will be expensive in manpower to take by force. Perhaps the answer is to simply drive the Ukes underground, bring in truckloads of stone to seal all the exits but one and wait them out. The one exit will be their portal of surrender.

8. Mariupol was handed to the Ukes some months ago in a deal with Ahkmetov. It was to Mariupol that all the previous Uke administrations of Novorossiya fled at the beginning of the conflict with their underlings, many bringing their entire families and hangers on. The city was also the rear base of many of the oligarch's private 'battalions', a rest and replenish area thought to be totally secure. It has been known for months that there was no real security in the area for the Ukes, in other words the entire area was wide open. The attack south along the RF border then turning west along the coast toward Mariupol was a masterpiece of deception, tactics and strategy. The flight in panic of all the golden pheasants and their minions was and is epic. Their flight is spreading worry and in some instances panic as far away as Melitopol and Kerson to the south and Dnepropetrovsk to the northeast of Novorossiya.

9. Partizan activities are increasing in frequency and force in the Kharkov and Slavyansk areas to the point Kharkov is building defenses facing Novorossiya. Of particular interest was the capture two weeks ago of an entire Kamaz load of Javelin antitank missiles. These missiles were offloaded from the 'Canadian' air force planes that brought 'non lethal' aid to the Uke army according to eye witnesses. The Javelin is not listed in the TOE (Table of Organization and Equipment) of the armed forces of Canada, although I have few doubts that oversight will be rectified within minutes of this report being read in The West.

10. The entire Uke force of airworthy air assets has now been shot down one and a half times. To qualify that statement, one should remember that when Belbek Aerodrome north of Sevastopol was taken there were 5 airframes of 43 on base that were airworthy, one of which was a trainer. This is indicative of the condition of the entire Uke armed forces. The problem with this fact is where are the units coming from that are being used by the Ukes? The answer is Germany, Poland and Czech are still supplying the ukes with equipment and aircraft from their stocks of equipment left from 'the old days'. Those 3 countries are also supplying the ukes with T 72 main battle tanks in pristine condition and other AFV's. Most of the Uke T 72's were sold off and exported during the Yushenko/Tymoshenko regime. Reports of crews and maintenance personnel provided with the equipment are not 100% verified.

11. The persistent reports from Ukeland of RF columns of tanks and AFV's entering Ukeland are false as are the Uke statements of the destruction of these columns. There will be no entry of RF forces in to Novorossiya nor will there be an invasion of Ukeland by RF, wishful thinking be damned. If RF was to invade she would not send half a Rota of armor, she would send half a dozen tank armies.

12. The massive destruction of cities, towns and villages of Novorossiya is ongoing. Every day and every night the bombardments continue. Civilian areas are mainly the targets. The destruction has been carefully planned and executed. The damage is in the many billions of euros and will take years to repair. The loss of life and injuries to the innocent civilians well exceeds 5,000 since the beginning of the war in April. The time for negotiations with Ukeland are long gone. The war will end when every single occupier of Novorossiya land from Ukeland is either ejected, in a POW camp or dead. Fact.

 

Oh, my little friends. Not so simple, in this long war on the territory of Ukraine. I can see that the troops were ordered to retreat in Ukraine! And all this is done in order to put the fear in the residents of the western Ukraine. The people of Western Ukraine begins to fear and hate Russia, because the rebels in eastern Ukraine with the support of Putin's regime were victorious! But this victory did not last long, as in mid-September, the western Ukraine with mercenaries (contractors) will go on the offensive and throw the Rebel to the border of Russia. Putin understands that with the onslaught of the rebel offensive can not cope, this team reviews the waters Putin Russian troops in eastern Ukraine teretorii to prevent defeat the rebels and not to give up the occupied territories! But on TV, as always tell the truth is that the government of the country (Russia, USA, Europe) always thinks only about the people! After all territorial disputes are not covered in these or other conflicts! Just Putin team, to present this year to decide on full-scale war against NATO (Europe, USA), because the waters of the Russian forces on the territory of Ukraine, is contrary to the interests of the other rulers of the country! Be patient my little friends, time will put everything in its place! And I'm still deliberate remove the clip, the desecration of Masonic symbolism! Mark Mason apron, (*)(*)(*)(*) (poop) and then put this video online! I wonder how much this movie will bring likes? After Russian Masons mock ordinary people including over the boys who said no! So I make fun of Freemasonry. And on the other side of Freemasonry will soon be destroyed, and thus the Masons is dying class that village only in books (stories).

 

You are hard to understand. Are making a prediction? The time will show, but one thing is wrong in your thinking. Novorussia is fighting not for intimidation of anyone. These people are fighting for independence form the Maida ruled Ukraine and this is all what they need at this time. The Maidans hate Russian any way, but they cannot and will not win. EU and USA made a poor investment in this fraction of Ukraine. I do not understand about the masonry. Why did you mention this stuff?

 

Someone I know said she read a letter on a Byzantine Catholic forum, that said this war is a genocide against Catholics. I said yes it is, but not by the Russians but by the same people who are committing genocide against the Russians in the Donbas. When Poroshenko wanted men, he knew the only ones who could be trusted and wouldn't surrender and join the side of the Russian speaking fighters were the Byzantine Catholics from Lviv. They have been dying in the thousands.

 

Vladimir Putin hopes on having a Nurenberg style trial after the war is over.

The trucks went in quickly and left quickly, so there is no excuse for not sending in more aid. Also the red cross was helping with the distribution. Russia said it will be sending in another truckload shortly.

Better they surrender, that way the world will know what atrocities they committed. That is if a world still exists by then, considering the route the U.S. has been taking.

If Russia invaded, it would be at the Polish and Romanian border in three days at the latest. The only help the militia is getting is probably logistical, if it were otherwise, it would give Obama the proof he was looking for that Russia is involved.

If Poroshenko really believes that the Donbas will remain a part of Ukraine, then the destruction is to make sure the Russian inhabitants will not return. It's all part of an ethnic cleansing campaign so that he and the other oligarchs can stay in power.

 

Part 1 (map at link)

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http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/73022.html#cutid1

In recent several days we are witnessing an epic and a historic event of its own kind. The Ukrainian regular army and punitive battalions are suffering a catastrophic defeat to the south of Donetsk. Even a short time ago the republics were in dire straits, the DPR was actually hanging by a thin supply thread , which was attempted to be cut near Shakhtyorsk and Krasnyi Luch, the summit of Saur-Mogila was abandoned, Bolotov's counteroffensive didn't bring decisive successes. Many thought that the militia was pressed against the rope and that it was about to break, which would lead to the collapse of Novorossia and the military victory for the fascist junta. However, the militia managed to withstand the most severe blow, which the junta dealt with all forces available to it in the first half of August. The junta made no secret of their goals, it openly spoke about preparing the assaults on Shakhtyorsk and Luhansk. The degree of triumphant reports on the background of the new breakthroughs of mechanized detachments was off the charts.

The first critical moment came up when the soldiers of the 25th airborne brigade and the Naziguard units broke into Shakhtyorsk. The DPR in those days was literally hanging by a thread, the junta got extremely close to a strategic victory. But the few forces that were fighting in the city stood their ground until the reinforcements arrived, which saved Novorossia from being split into 2 parts. In subsequent battles the junta breakthrough in this location was mitigated, due to which, after suffering heavy casualties in people and materiel, the junta suffered a defeat here.

The second critical moment came up when a strike was performed from the side of Debalcevo through Faschevka towards the 24th Mechanized Brigade, which was breaking out of the South Cauldron. It was an ambitious plan, when the enemy tried to cleave Novorossia by using the already seemingly written off units as a strike group. This joint strike on Miusinsk and Krasnyi Luch triggered a severe crisis in Novorossia - there were very few troops in this area, Miusinsk, through which the mechanized convoys of the junta slipped through, was hardly defended at all, a part of Cossacks abandoned their positions in Krasnyi Luch. A real threat emerged of splitting Novorossia and of the death of the group in the area of Torez-Snezhnoye-Saur-Mogila. But then again, the courage of ordinary soldiers who clung to Krasnyi Luch and Miusinsk allowed to hang on until the reserves came, with which Miusinsk was cleared of the enemy and Krasnyi Luch was kept. Overcoming the crisis, the militia was able to win decisive battles here, which had far-reaching consequences.

Because the offensive on Yasinovataya failed, a breakthrough to the Verkhnyaya Krynka and Zhdanovka with the goal of cutting Gorlovka off was liquidated and because to Yenakievo the junta failed to advance altogether, in the second half of August the junta offensive started to run out of steam and the militia gradually began to exhibit an offensive impulse. Objectively, the situation demanded the junta to stop the attack, to regroup, to pull in the reserves, to create a reserve of fuel and ammunition, and then to continue the offensive by assembling new strike groups. Nevertheless, political considerations required a continuation of the offensive by the same group. Because the front in the LPR has stabilized as a whole and because the South Cauldron was routed, in the light of the stopped offensive to the north of Donetsk, the junta continued its offensive on the south despite the serious operational risk, trying to take Ilovaysk and Mospino head-on. And the stronger the junta got involved in these fights, the more narrow became the front of the offensive, which began in early August on a broad front, but already by the 20th it effectively boiled down to a single point.

The end points of this offensive were the southern slopes of the Saur-Mogila, the semi-wrapped Mospino and the southern suburbs of Ilovaysk. In the last few days of the offensive, it was reduced to a primitive piling up on Ilovaysk. Meanwhile, on the southern flank a threat was looming, which proved later to be fatal. After finishing off the South Cauldron and after repelling the offensive on Miusinsk and Krasnyi Luch, the militia recaptured Marinovka (which switched sides 2 times in July-August) and started to seep along the border to the checkpoint "Uspenka", wrapping the Amvrosiyevka group in the process.

It's hard to say why the junta didn't respond to this threat - perhaps they decided that there's only the activity of the reconnaissance and sabotage groups in this area, which is unpleasant, but has no operational significance. Perhaps they thought that they will manage to succeed under Ilovaysk sufficiently fast and then fend off the threat from the south. As a result, the militia was able to accumulate a sufficient force to the south-east of Amvrosiyevka, this force carried out a cleaving strike on communications of the main forces of the junta that were bound by the fighting under Ilovaysk, Mospino, and Saur-Mogila. At the same time, a strike by a mechanized group to the west of Mospino followed towards the units that were advancing from the south, which turned out to be completely unexpected for the junta, because until recently they tried tried to wrap Mospino from both sides here.

 

The intelligence apparently missed this attack, as a result of which a comparatively small force of the militia intercepted the main communication of the largest junta group to the south of Donetsk, where the most combat-capable units that stormed Mospino, Saur-Mogila, and Ilovaysk were gathered, including the 3 punitive battalions "Azov", "Shakhtyorsk" and "Donbass-1", plus the various reinforcement units and different independent companies. More than 5000 soldiers and about 180 various military vehicles ended up being surrounded, as well as up to 90 artillery pieces, mortars, and MLRS.

It is laughable to compare, considering the scale, but the militia actually carried out a mini-operation for encirclement that was similar to the Stalingrad Cauldron - a classic strike on converging directions, of course the junta had no Romanians and no Italians on its flanks, but on the one side there was just a hole, and on the other side there were screens that weren't supposed to withstand a strike of mechanized units. As a result, in addition to the remnants of the boiler under Dyakovo, the Amvrosiyevka Cauldron emerged, around which the militia began to create the encirclement ring, expanding the offensive to the south and to the south-west, occupying settlements deep in the rear of the southern group of the junta. At the same time, the disorganization of command and control was growing rapidly. The "Azov" batallion actually went out of control and ran into Mariupol with a large part of its forces, the battalions "Donbass-1" and "Shakhtyorsk" got stuck in urban combat for Ilovaysk and instead of breaking out of the cauldron they started to demand tanks and artillery from the military in order to to continue the assault on the city, which by this time was already pretty much a lost cause.

Because only rear detachments without heavy materiel remained on the outer side of the boiler, the militia immediately began to develop the offensive to the southwest of Amvrosiyevka, with an exit to Starobeshevo, which by the evening of August 26 was taken. Meanwhile, already on the 25th the militia fighters broke through to Volnovakha. Effectively, with a loss of these points the junta won't even have positions from which it can perform an unblocking strike in this area. The encircled troops in essence ended up in the deep rear, far away from the new front line and with a limited supply of fuel and ammunition. And this new front is a massive hole for the junta, which has nothing to plug it with. The remains of the junta forces, including the "Azov" battalion hastily retreated into Mariupol, abandoning several settlements virtually without a fight, due to which the militia fighters rolled directly into the suburbs Novoazovsk and onto the approaches to Mariupol. There's virtually no front on the junta side to the south of Starobeshevo and up until Novoazovsk. Only a lack of forces in the militia slows the growing catastrophe down.

At the same time, the militia also develop their offensive to the west of Mospino on Ugledar, Yelenovka, and Nikolskoye. Here junta has quite few forces, so the militia offensive develops quite successfully albeit not dashingly. Under Yelenovka yet another "mini-cauldron" appeared, the connectivity of the junta group that held Donetsk in a semi-encirclement became irreparably broken.

The junta has no reserves yet to unlock the encircled group and to cover the massive hole in the front - now they are hastily withdrawing troops from Perekop and bringing territorial battalions of questionable combat readiness to the front, they announced the 4th wave of mobilization and they try to quickly throw the altogether very old materiel from storage facilities into fray in order to compensate for the huge materiel losses. Overall, it is not quite clear how the junta will be able to avoid a complete defeat here. It will not be able to restore the front already, the only question is whether the surrounded ones will be able to break out (and they will have to do so on their own, and it is most likely that they will have to make the decision ASAP) and where the militia will stop their offensive, they still have fairly limited forces and they are now routing a larger force with a smaller force.

In the meantime, the once solid front, which stretched from Marinovka to Yelenovka, now broke up into separate pockets of resistance with intercepted supply lines. After this disaster it became absolutely clear that the junta has no military capability of destroying Novorossia. By squandering the most combat-capable brigades in systematic offensive operations the junta suffered huge losses and herewith suffered a defeat. A purely military crushing defeat. The southern front collapsed. Novorossia will be!

 

KGB I don't know if you have seen this news conference but you might find it interesting. There is a couple spots where the one guy can hardly keep laughing at the absurdity of the things being reported by Kiev. These guys definitely have common sense on their side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH35raTPVu8&feature=player_embedded

 

Yep, I've seen this.
There is a good way to prove how pathetic is information coming from Kiev.
DNR army have re-captured Saur-Mogila height, which is totally under the control of Ukraine, according to Ukraine:
[video=youtube;vS8qiPv2eP0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS8qiPv2eP0#t=213[/video]

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Nevertheless, even some Ukranian sources admit that they are being defeated on the southern flank:
51th Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine defeated
Ukranian source
http://izvestia.kiev.ua/article/73293

Of course they don't forget to mention that it is all because herp derp "Russian military".


In the area of ​​ATO disappeared group of 60 fighters of the National Guard - Media
http://www.unian.net/politics/95613...zla-gruppa-iz-60-boytsov-natsgvardii-smi.html

 

Semen Semenchenko (commander of the "Donbas" pro-government militia unit) There's nothing to wait for. We were fooled once again. I appeal to all impartial Ukrainians with a call to save our brothers. If they were abandoned by many-star generals, then I don't believe that they will be abandoned by the people of Ukraine. There will be NO HELP TODAY. The minister of defense and the commander of the ATO are responsible for this. There's not even an order to break back to their own. Right now, if the currently week screens on the road Kuteynikovo –Starobeshevo will solidify, then a second line of the blockade will appear and this will be a brotherly grave. The today's rally isn't organized by me – it is organized by Kiev public. I make a repost and support. Tomorrow I will join the organization of a new rally – we need as many people as possible near the General Staff. About this the information after 17:00 today. The time of tomorrow's gathering – tentatively for 10:00. Repost Save our people! In Ilovaysk the detachments of battalions "Donbass", "Dnieper", "Svityaz", "Kherson", and "Volunteer" are in the encirclement for the 5-th day. The command of these detachments over all of these 5 days requested the ATO leadership to make a corridor for evacuating the heavily wounded. These requests aren't heard by anybody and are sabotaged by both the military command and by the leadership of the country. We are appealing to Automaidan, to all patriots and the impartial people. Immediately come today to the Bankovaya street with a demand to the country leadership to immediately provide help to all detachments that are currently in an encirclement in Ilovaysk. The lives of the wounded and of all fighters are in your hands. Each minute is important. 17-00. Summary: today is a rally by Kiev residents on Bankovaya, I won't be able to make it to join it already. Tomorrow there's a rally near the General Staff, there we will be able to participate. I request support. There's nobody to count on. This is not panic – this is a reasonable exit from the unfolding situation.

 

The disturbance in the Force I can feel...
The birth of a new cauldorne I see...

 

So much misinformation coming from Kiev and being spoon fed by the west.

 

Looks like shots are being fired in Kiev this morning

 

Some updates on current situation:


-Rebels have re-taken cities of Pervomaysk, Stahanovsk and Kirovsk (to the north-west-west from Lugansk)
-Rebels have taken control over novotroitskoe village, creating 4-th cauldorn, as expected (to the south from Donetsk), although it is still possible for Ukies to escape it
-Rebels have taken city of Novoazovsk (to the east from Mariupol), also they have taken some villages to the north of Mariupol. It seems they are going to encircle it and take it.

For comparison, yesterdays' situation:




Population of Mariupol is currently in panic mode, they fear that after rebels take over the town, Ukranian army will start massive artillery shelling on residential districts, like they did in Slavyans and are doing in Donetsk now.



A pair of pics to feel the magnitude of info-war:
First one is pro-Russian and pro-independence meeting (8 March 2014)


The second one is recent pro-Ukranian meeting in Mariupol


Oh, well, why would they need to import these "patriots" (note that load of buses) , if Mariupol wants to be in Ukraine?

 

Some photos of eliminated 51-st Ukranian brigade(non Graphic):





Junta's troops have abadoned their positions near Telmanovo village:




Thank you for that hardware now in Rebel hands.

 

This is good, some valuable equipment and plenty of scrap metal.

 

Anti-govt forces ‘circle 1000s of Kiev troops, capture 2 tank battalions’ in E.Ukraine

Published time: August 24, 2014

After sustained defensive combat against Ukrainian troops in the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk during August, rebels are now reporting entrapping two large groups of Kiev troops and seizing military hardware in a counteroffensive.

The main headquarters of the DPR army has made a decision to stop operations in small groups and form full-bodied independent military units, the anti-Kiev forces say in a summary of their operations filed on Sunday.

http://rt.com/news/182404-donetsk-forces-trap-hardware/

 

There are reports of massive surrendering of surrounded Junta forces.

On this video you can see 6 tanks, which have fallen to the rebels hands as a result of Ukrops' surrender near Starobeshevo village.
[video=youtube;PhoK1MAGgaA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhoK1MAGgaA[/video]


Rebels have captured the infamous "Donbass" punitive batallion:
[video]http://vk.com/zapadenez?z=video245703538_169 403075%2F7eb44816c4ae4c3888[/video]

"Those who don't jump are protectors, those who do are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s"


Today was the day. Rebels have achieved their first naval victory (sorry for terrible quality):
[video=youtube;dVl7_NgoNDo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVl7_NgoNDo[/video]



Border patrol boat was destroyed, supposengly by AT missile.


And hell yeah, Mariupol is encirckled.