having sex with children should be illegal, regardless if your a heterosexual or a homosexual, sexual preference of consenting adults plays no part in it
They lived in Rome under Roman law. And I made no assertions about "same-se unions" and was quite specific that I was speaking of marriage.
You inability to comprehend is showing. The quote from my post doesn't as much as even suggest a requirement of procreation and yet that is how you interpreted it. Government is already involved in determining who can marry. Limiting marriage to men and women because only men and women procreate makes perfect sense. Extending marriage to any two consenting adults in the interest of equality would even make some sense. BUT only extending marriage to gay couples so they can feel better about their homosexuality makes no sense whatsoever.
Nope, the strawman of some requirement of procreation in marriage is your invention. The made up debates are much easier for you to deal with because no one is on the other side.
So every woman, even married mothers, who ever gave a blowjob or a handjob, is a pervert? Interesting.
It's not an "invention" since it's a well known argument of the Bible thumper set against homosexuality. That's why you're against it, amirite?
When everyone you are debating (if you can seriously call what you do debate) believes procreation is your argument and it actually isn’t, maybe you should rethink how you are presenting your argument. If your argument isn’t procreation and it isn’t the potential of procreation then what is your argument? Can you even formulate one without mentioning one or both of the arguments above? Same sex couples are situated identically to opposite sex couples if you remove both of those items.
Same sex marriage has existed throughout time Same sex unions have existed throughout time Appeals to tradition is considered a logical fallacy, I know many of you live decades in the past but if you cannot defend the practice in modern times then it has no bearing on current law.
Im an atheist and thought you were addressing my arguments. Ill leave you and the bible thumpers to that debate. And I have no problem with homosexuality but simply don't see the need for government involvement in it. Orgasms give no rise of concern for government involvement. Single mothers on their own with absent or even unknown fathers does give rise to such governmental concerns.
I was replying to your post Its not an appeal to tradition when I dispute your assertions regarding what has been "throughout history"
Yet you are pushing a religious view of sexual morality. I'm addressing your prejudice against homosexuality. If you don't want to discuss it, fine. If you want to claim that the only "proper" sex is between a man and a woman in the "missionary position" and only for procreation, fine, but you don't have a right to tell others they can't disagree with such a narrow point of view. You don't have a right to tell others falsehoods such as "marriage has always been between a man and a woman" without expecting others to disagree. If you can't handle that, then you have several options, report me, put me on ignore, get used to it and/or find another hobby...just to name a few.
Never existed in recognized law of the times. I saw a guy marry a horse once. Using your silly logic I could argue that marriage has never been limited to the human species.
I had a thought. Given the tone of the thread, why not pass a law that requires hetro folks to license themselves before they have sex, and then have to prove they have gone through sufficient sexual education courses to be proficient? I mean, while we're in a regulating mood and all....
Nope. I don't think government should involve itself in morality. Children born to single mothers on their own have higher rates of poverty, juvenile delinquency, drug and alcohol abuse, teen pregnancy, HS dropouts and criminal convictions as an adult. Those are the things that give rise to cause for governmental concern, not morality. Yeah I disagree with government involvement in same sex marriage. YOU simply presume any opposition is due to prejudice against homosexuality.
Notice how the operative word "requirement" has been removed from your assertions. Likely to try and pretend you ever had a relevant point
Great! Common ground. While I agree about single mothers, what is your proposed solution? Mine is cheap abortions on demand under the 24 week rule. You've spent a lot of time calling people who have other than male-female missionary sex "perverts". Did I misunderstand something here? Do you think fellatio and cunnilingus are perverted?
Over the course of your time here Dixon. you have made it relatively clear that your opinion of sexual activity is prudish at best so one cannot be blamed for assuming your position on this topic.
Yes. It is a completely different issue But no, not everyone agrees that sex with children should be illegal. For some reason child homosexual sex is used to smear gay sex in general in a way that does not happen with hetrosexual child sex
Why don't you copy and paste ANY post of mine that could be characterized as prudish. AND when you have nothing at all, we will all see how truly full of **** you are.
Some 70-90% of my friends are Queer(umbrella term for any non-straights). It'd be insulting on their behalf to even consider homosexuality to be illegal, be it legally or morally.
The former hardly precludes the latter; but be that as it may, I'm more inclined to think confusion is not so much what he's mired in himself as what he hopes to engender in others.