Marine's set up recruitment desk at LGBT center

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  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The question, as I see it, is not "how worried you are" about the person next to you in a firefight. The issue is of unit cohesion. The likelihood you will be tight enough with your unit to perform adequately, or if you really give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if the gay guy eats it... if you feel comfortable being led by the guy lisping at you about being tough. If the guy that throws like a girl is going to get enough distance with that grenade... lol... ok that was just for fun...

    There is a solidarity in groups which allows them to perform to the standard in which they do. I also believe women in combat was a terrible idea for a thousand reasons. Men, straight men, tend to try and protect women, to their own detriment. They tend to come apart when they are injured... and... there is some darker stuff too.

    I have never served, and I am no expert. My opinions come primarily from generations of military family. Gay? who cares. Openly gay? That poses a threat to people whose opinions I don't have to share to want safe. Repealing DADT was a stupid, stupid idea, with NO tactical benefit whatsoever. All risk, no gain. It is not a swingers club... nobody needs to know what you like.
     
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    Oh my lord, are you jumping on the irrelevant bandwagon here? I hope you don't twist an ankle.

    Of all of the lame ass excuses that folks could come up with, yours is right up there at the top.

    Guess what? Gays are already in the military, apparently donating blood left and right.
     
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    NewSmirkingChimp Banned

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    So can you prove you're not in mommas basement looking for attention? Can you prove you actually have or had a job? Can you prove you can ride a bicycle? Doubt you can so therefore you're a liar. That's pretty easy, isn't it? :-D
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do understand what the military does right?

    You do know that emergency field units don't have heaps of blood to give everybody who gets hurt doing what they do right?

    It is a fairly common occurrence in theater. It is a completely valid argument...

    I can defeat it... but it is a valid argument.
     
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    I am fairly sure none of those was injected by me to try and save a failed argument, like what you did.

    Do I have a job? I don't know, do I? I have always said for all intents and purposes I am a janitor. Please consider me one, and consider you are constantly losing your little arguments to a guy who cleans toilets.

    Do I live in my mother's basement? I am from California, we don't have basements. But if it makes you feel better to know that a guy who lives in his mother's basement consistently shows your posts to be bigoted crap lacking anything approaching a thought, then think what you like about my dwelling.

    Can I ride a bike? I don't know, can I? Pretty sure I did not make up a story about how my bike riding antics saved crippled orphans in a firefight.
     
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    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Don't join if that's your fear. While you're at it, don't leave your home... or stay in a bubble. Anything to prevent blood loss (which could result in receiving blood).

    I never had a doubt.

    "Fit for duty" standards, of course. If you can't defend yourself and others because the soldier in the DFP next to you is homosexual, you're not fit to serve.
     
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    Like everyone doesn't have some kind of 'Fetish'
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmm. It would appear that gays that are in the military are donating blood now, wouldn't it?
     
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    Ahhh yes, were was human knowledge of these genes 60ish years ago when the military was desegregation in 1948?

    Every-time any type of desegregation happens, it is meet with fierce opposition. Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to anger and anger leads to hate. History keeps repeating itself.
     
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    Already happened.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And hate leads to the dark side... thank you Yoda.

    I don't care what people do in their bedroom. My point is, a lot of people do. It gains nothing, and risks unit cohesion. I do not believe agenda driven social experiments are worth putting lives at risk.

    And blacks have fought in every war since this nations inception.
     
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    :bored:

    That’s the same exact BS that was being said after the desegregation of the military.

    And homosexuals have fought in every war since this nations inception.

    History repeats itself, both the good and bad.

    PS: perhaps you should listen to Yoda more often. Their is wisdom in what the puppet says.
     
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    Psst, don't worry I won't, they wouldn't have me. I retired several years ago. :rolleyes:

    Facts are facts, ships are floating blood banks. Again, would YOU want blood from a known homosexual?

    If you like you can defer to your friend Bobo, he knows lots of Corpse Man and he see's dead people in all 57 states.
     
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    Unit cohesion never existed if it's easily "lost" by something so miniscule and irrelevant to the mission.
     
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    I'm devastated by that.

    I signed up and am currently serving, so yes.
     
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    you make it sound like gay people in the military will have uncontrollable sexual urges to hit on straight people now...which is pure unbridled ignorance.

    and gay people have fought in every war since this nations inception to...
     
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    I can source my claim. Can you?

    Which puppet? Again, I am not ignorant, I am not angry, and I do not hate homosexuals.

    You are missing the point entirely. It does no good, can only do bad. Serves no purpose whatsoever. Desegregation served a military purpose. It was good. There was a positive reason to do it. Being black is a matter of genetics. They didn't have to let you know they were black, they simply were.

    This is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) politics and serves no military purpose whatsoever.
     
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    Please quote where I said anything at all about the intentions of gay service members.

    I said only that a lot of military people are homophobic... and that is not illegal. They get to be. You get to suck cocks, and they get to not like it. They get to be disturbed by it. They get to think it is an abomination and you are going to burn in hell for it.

    They get to. That is the DA part of DADT.

    It was smart.

    Being "out there" serves no positive purpose militarily.
     
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    Which doesn't matter... as it's also not illegal to hold racist sentiment, until the moment one decides to act on those thoughts, of course. How dare someone think to incorporate different races into the fray knowing full-well the feelings of racists.

    No. The days of catering to bigotry are over.
     
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    Truman Desegregation Order Took Time For Military To Obey

    For those who do not understand history, are sure to repeat it. Looks like history wasn't your strong suit in school :mrgreen:
     
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    This strawman you keep bringing back into the argument... all of you...

    "race" is genetic, and really non-existent if you want to get into it.

    Homosexuality is not genetic, yet existent, and contrary to the beliefs of most of the people in this country. You do not get to equate the two. You are not afforded the privilege of adopting the plight of blacks (most of whom hate homosexuals) for your political agenda.

    HOW YOU GET OFF HAS NO PLACE IN THE MILITARY.

    MOST PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU ESPOUSE ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITIES GENESIS.

    You don't get to unanimously and unequivocally declare that it is ok and the rest of the world should just deal with it, when you don't even understand it, disavow any honest exploration of it, and have absolutely no scientific understanding whatsoever the origin of the mental condition which prescribes how you like to get off.

    It

    serves

    no

    purpose.
     
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    If that's the case you're a fool but whatever, better you than me. :popcorn: What kind of idiot would want blood from a known homosexual? A liar perhaps because NOBODY would accept that option if given.
     
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    I am fully aware of the horror of democrats in every step towards desegregation. That which I asked you to source was gays fighting in every war since the nations inception.
     
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    Missed this...

    This is exactly my point. It will never exist in many units, because it isn't so minuscule to some... rather a lot really.


    And thank you for your service.
     

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