Marist Rust-Belt States Poll: Pres. Trump is deep, deep underwater

IMO there's no such thing as a wasted vote. I voted 3rd party in 2016, not because I'm Gary Johnson's biggest fan, but because I was and still am vehemently anti-Trump and anti-Clinton. Plus the 3rd parties need support right now if there is any hope of breaking up the 2 party monopoly we have today, especially if the parties are going to continue to put forth the 2 rottenest candidates they can come up with every 4 years.

 

Because he's an official candidate, because he's selling campaign gear, he's hosting fundraisers, and he's holding campaign rallies.

You can even make a donation already.

https://secure.donaldjtrump.com/we-...ce=website&utm_medium=web&utm_content=top_nav

 

Part of a presidents job is to fundraise for his party, that doesn't mean he is campaigning.

 

The "2-party monopoly" will NEVER be broken in American Presidential politics.

The candidate of one of the 2 major parties (Dem or GOP) will always be a he winner in the Electoral College.

A 3rd Party candidate will always be nothing more than a spoiler who ultimately serves to swing the election.

Especially, like Jill Stein in 2016 or Nader in 2000, when they disproportionately siphon votes from one party. (It is beyond question that the Green Party overwhelmingly siphons votes from the Dem nominee).

A viable 3rd Party is an unrealizable dream in American Presidential politics.

It can only serve as a spoiler.

 

He's raising money and campaigning for his own re-election, which he filed for on Inauguration Day. He even has advertisements already for his re-election. His campaign manager is a man named Michael Glassner. As of the beginning of August he had already raised $12 million for the Trump re-election.

 

A lot of this is true. But you can't succeed if you don't even try. Especially when you consider the two choices you are given too heinous to support.

 

As long as the DNC nominates another Hillary, he will win again with approval ratings not that much different now than they were when he won. That of course assuming he runs again, which he won't. He will declare himself the greatest since Lincoln, greater in many way, and hand it over to Pence. Since Pence has spoken out publicly against Trump before he should have no problem winning the nomination.

 

Is that not normal?

 

To declare your candidacy for re-election on the day you are inaugurated? No, it isn't.

All of the other Presidents correctly knew they should demonstrate that they are able to do their job for at least a day before getting back into candidate mode. But we've never elected a reality TV game show host in the past so we shouldn't be surprised that Trump is always the perpetual candidate.

 

Interesting theory. And you may be somewhat correct.

I'd be far more comfortable with Pence at the helm.

 

I remind the forum that it was Obama that daily was on TV. And of course he campaigned. Very heavily.

 

He didn't declare his candidacy and organize a campaign until April 2011, 27 months after he was inaugurated.

He was probably on TV daily because he was the President.

 

Why do posters believe this way?

First, we do not have a president mimicking Obama who broke plenty of laws. DACA is not provided for in law. Obama chose to break the existing law. Trump booted it to Congress to find out if they plan to make it the law.

So what is Trumps daily doing? Being beaten up by the media to the point Democrats long feel he deserved it and the media campaign against Trump is determined the rest of us despise Trump.

I won't go along. Trump was never my number one guy, but today he is. I did vote for him and rejected Hillary Clinton.

So what does Trump actually do? Most of the time he has been unwinding the illegal things done by Obama. It has taken him 8 months and still he is not finished. Trump has chosen people for the government. And The Senate has approved them that need approving. Wait, not all, the Senate Democrats put a clog in those works.

 

I won't argue when he declared, but on TV clearly he campaigned right away. Never stopped. The Media does not need to put the president on TV daily. I can turn on TV daily and seldom do they put Trump on where he can either campaign nor defend himself.

 

I googled Trump announcing for president and came up with this.

 

Looks to me like he did not shut down that website and seeks funding. I want him to start campaigning today. But alas, find nothing in Google saying he is.

 

Does it affect him doing his job?

 

everything affects him doing his job

 

He can't do his job. The only thing he can do is campaign. Hopefully that will keep him busy for the next 3 1/2 years and he'll let the adults like Pence and Kelly run things.

 

As I progressive, I am much more comfortable with an ADD meglomaniac who won't get anything done at the helm. Since I hated Hillary but don't want the GOP to do anything lasting, he is perfect just the way he is where he is for now.

 

He's signed 54 bills into law, pulled us out of two major agreements, got the Keystone pipeline underway, has plans for his wall due this month, is starting to negotiate NAFTA, has proposed a budget and a tax reform piece of legislation, attempted to redo healthcare.

What do you mean he hasn't done anything?

 

Of course you can tell me how many of them he was responsible for Congress putting together, and list the ones that were considered major bills? I signed a some things at work today that someone else created and put in front of me. By the logic I think you're using, I should just call up my CEO and demand a raise because I had to whip out my pen.

The wall that Mexico is paying for? The wall that's been in the works for decades - that wall? He did promise Mexico would pay. He wouldn't be reneging on that promise now, would he?

 

Well that's what his job is.

So saying he isn't doing his job is just silly.

Of course he is.

 

No, he isn't. But if it makes you feel better thinking he is, then don't let me stop you. I don't support the reality TV game show host who is a lifelong Democrat and wants to destroy the GOP.

Is Mexico paying for that wall?

 

Trump has a plan to tax illegals who send money back to Mexico so it looks like it.