Mark Cuban: We'll see fewer mass shootings by 'taking care of income inequality'

The best way is to produce more intact families.

 

Ya but were not supposed to say that

 

I guess I'm saying if you insist on polishing said turd atleast use the right wax lol.. just giving people money is even worse than what I and you commented imo

 

I think there are many reasons for mass shootings, and I know that a significant number of such shootings are staged events intended to further gun control efforts.

 

Drug dealers aren't poor. Lots of people grow up poor. They don't start shooting people because of it.

 

They aren't when they start? Let's put it this way if your starving and you see somebody with alot of food walk by wouldn't you be more tempted than an average person to do whatever it takes to get their food? Logic seems to say yes they would be more tempted

 

To steal a meal - yes. To kill when you could as easily beg for change and then buy a meal-no. Poverty does not lead to murder.

 

Proverty wouldn't on average make people more tempted than a more well off person? You'll notice I said more tempted and that didn't mean that they would in every case. What if the person they steal the meal from fights back and things get out of hand?

 

The think the Third World is restricted to the Americas? How funny

 

That's not how you 'fix' people, though. Once the damage has been done in the home, it's very difficult to correct it. The only way to ensure you won't get 'shooters' (if that's what you're talking about), is raise kids who don't grow up to become shooters.

 

Not if you've been raised to respond to wants/needs by applying yourself more diligently. It wouldn't even occur to you to feel anything other than a little longing. There are people literally starving to death who won't steal food. That may be taking things too far, especially if it's a child, but the point remains.

 

Not at all. It's lack of scruples which tempt people ... and such people will always see temptation. The person with scruples doesn't even see it.

 

I'm sure there are but I'd say those that rigidly stick to their principles are the exception not the rule. It's easy to talk about what one would do in hypotheticals but when they're actually in the position sometimes things change. In that position some people would put feeding themselves over their own guidelines for right and wrong.

 

If you're talking about American crime, no one is starving. There goes the only reasonable excuse for criminality.

 

I'd have to disagree as homicide rates in poor neighborhoods tend to say otherwise.. if we could wave a magic wand and give all poor people 100k im sure murders would go down considerably. In my mind the issue is that there isn't a magic wand to do so.

If someone felt so inclined to help poor people that's their right. What I'm saying though is if you want to do so just giving poor people money will not solve the problem. The problem bring this people lack skills and knowledge and in some cases the drive to be better.

I believe the way to address it would be incentiving success in said communities investing in education vocational training mental health facilities.

Again the is if your of the mind to address it. I personally think that raising one group up tends to neglect another

 

I didn't bring up the starving analogy...

I'm not saying there is a reasonable excuse. I'm saying that poor people tend to commit more homicide than more than more well off people.

 

1) the money won't make a single jot of difference, long term. criminality is cultural, not economic. that part we know with absolute certainty. pretending there isn't a vast majority of humanity currently VERY poor and NOT criminal, is to argue from a completely untenable position. the evidence is abundently clear, and massive in scale.

2) people who have chosen to avoid 'knowledge and skills' (as have those in the First World who remain in poverty) cannot be made to accept same.

3) you cannot incentivise anything, these people have already decided they're not interested in money or success. they don't want what you're offering.

 

1) that's what I said about money.... As far as poor people committing more crimes it's a fact,now we can debate why but that's a different debate
2) I agree on average which I why I said I wouldn't address it. I'm merely saying if I did I wouldn't just give these people money because money doesn't fix their problem IMO their problem being they don't have marketable skills
3) again refer to point 2

 

they don't WANT marketable skills. such skills can be obtained right now, via the thousands of govt funded programs which exist in First World democracies. no matter how much you (as in, general you) want it to be that easy, it isn't.

you can only lead the horse to water - and we already do that. if they choose not to drink, you no choice but to let them 'die of thirst'.

 

I like him on Shark Tank.

 

Mark Cuban: We'll see fewer mass shootings by 'taking care of income inequality'

Everybody but Cuban things mass shootings result from mental health issues. None of them has made money for the shooter or even could. The fun thing about celebrity is that you can speak nonsense and get a following for it.