Mark Cuban: We'll see fewer mass shootings by 'taking care of income inequality'

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  1. Jimmy79

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    So wealth envy leads to mass shootings. Maybe if we take away everyones money then everyone live on the govt dime, mass shootings and all other crime will go away.
     
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    A childish response. Income inequality creates negative spillovers, leading to the ultimate denial of rights. Its a shame right wingers aren't bothered about such matters.
     
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    Society does not exist except as a general concept and therefore has no responsibility at all.
     
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    The State should provide benefit to all it's residents.
     
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    It punishes them for their disabilities.
     
  6. Dissily Mordentroge

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    Problem here in Australia the unemployment benefit (called ‘Newstart’) is so low it doesn’t allow for any etc.
     
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    Simplistic, judgemental, randian generalisations omit a significant percent of the population who through no fault of their own are incapable of manifesting the ‘virtues’ you list. Tell someone born with profound disabilities they make themselves what they are and see how far you get.
    As to ‘the more likely you are to justify criminal action, the worse off you will be economically’ contitutes an even more absurd generalisation.
    Tell that to a Columbian coke dealer or a Trump.
     
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    most mass shooting in our children's schools are by white males
     
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    So you assume a significant portion of those who refuse to take care of themselves are "incapable of manifesting the virtues". How the hell do you think we built the society you now think owes you a living before social welfare came along?

    The more you agree with the "I can't" attitude, the more people jump on the bandwagon- the easiest way to avoid being responsible for themselves, and if they have no self respect or pride- they don't see it as costing them anything. But those who support that attitude are the enablers who steal the pride, steal the ability to have control of their destiny from them. Those people do more harm to society than those who refuse to contribute.

    Nature has for millions of years consisted of millions of species- who all thrived, big, small, weak, powerful, side by side- without any of the myriad of benefits we provide ourselves through our society. Everyone of those creatures can do what we cannot- or will not do; they are more successful than we are.... for fundamental reasons. They all know they are responsible for themselves, so they do what needs to be done to thrive. They have no police or lawyers, no religions, no doctors, no politicians- just natures laws. They thrive without poisoning the world without consuming all it's resources and filling it with trash, or killing other creatures who pose no threat to them. There is no question that we are equipped with the abilities to thrive- The big difference is that we refuse to accept the responsibility for doing it. Somebody else is responsible for our failure, our pain, our care and feeding... A great many of us simply CHOOSE TO BE DEPENDENT, and have no problem foregoing pride and self respect to do so. I refuse to steal those things from people.

    Apparently it hasn't occurred to you that until a person learns to be responsible for themselves- they will hate themselves, and as you are the one telling them how the world owes them a better life- they will hold you responsible. They will take your money. Be dependent, and hate you for the control that dependency has over them. Never appreciating the gift, seeing the help as on overdue and insufficient payment on what society owes them. The hardest part of growing up is proving yourself to yourself- because within that is freedom, self-respect and pride. But if you fail to try, if some do-gooder tells you that you are a victim and others owe you- you will be stuck in that hell forever.

    I refuse to promote that mindset. I will go our of my way to give a person a hand-up, but I will refuse to give them a hand-out. Big difference.
     
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    Then explain how the man who founded the award winning narrative television network was himself blind and yet succeeded. There are countless stories like that in this country and always have been. Society doesn't go out of it's way to punish you nor will it go out of it's way to kiss your butt, nor should it. Society made me do it is just as much a lame excuse as the devil made me do it and for the same reason
     
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    But those are the overwhelming minority.of mass shootings historically.
     
  12. Dissily Mordentroge

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    Randian nonsense requiring no response.
     
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    The very study you quoted from and I linked to says the same thing.

    In terms of the controls: population density, young population, and minority population return significant positive associations. Conversely, unemployment rate fails to return a significant relationship.

    It goes on in the conclusion to say

    Nevertheless, what our results suggest is that communities most at-risk for mass shootings include the top economic engines of the United States such as New York and San Francisco, both of which maintain high levels of income inequality and household income.

    So SF, NYC, LA, Seattle... all of those wonderful democratic cities that lefties brag on for being "economic engines" are breeding grounds for mass shooters, which tend to be poor young minorities who sit around and stare with envy at all those rich people who drive through their squalid neighborhoods and just lose it.

    Further, it's not the rich minorities like asians and gays, but rather the poor ones like blacks. That means it's not minority status, but race that is the clincher.
     
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    It's not in the Chicken in Every Pot section?
     
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    He is extraordinary. Ordinary disabled people abandoned by Society sink into fentanyl use by tens and hundreds of thousands.
     
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    It makes no celebration of racism. Please stop fibbing. It isn't a good look.
     
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    They're angry that their useless degree isn't enough to move them into a run down studio apartment, much less a mansion.

    A fitting reward for thinking like fey aristocrats, IMHO.
     
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    Look forward to the beginning of the end of the human species, in that case.
     
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    Nope. You could throw trillions at education and mental health care, and it won't make a jot of difference. Both are a result of what happens in the home from the day a child is born. And that's the ONLY place it can be addressed. Once the kid is a teenager, it's much harder to ward off any potential negative behaviours or propensity to indulge 'depression' and the like.
     
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    Cuban is an idiot. Income inequality does not drive people insane. If it did the third world would be complete chaos.
     
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    And none were born in test tubes. IOW, they all have parents .. or at least relatives. Failing that (and what are the chances?), friends. These are who are responsible for those who 'need help', not govt.
     
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    Basic error. We've already seen the empirical evidence that confirms income inequality increases mass shootings.
     
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    That's silly. Disabled people are cared for by family all over the world. And most are cared for quite well, and never indulge drugs or other addictions.
     
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    Their families are responsible for their food and shelter, and govt should provide medical care and education.
     
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    They are not abandoned by 'society', they are abandoned by their own families. And in some cases, for good reason.
     

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