Mass Judge Rules AR-15's Not Protected By The Second.

You are correct, although per their tendency to rule as narrowly possible, and the law challenged only applied to handguns, therefore so does the ruling. But it serves as excellent stare decisis to expand it to longguns as soon as the right case comes along.

 

$100 donation to the forum says SCOTUS will reject any appeal of this case.

any takers?

 

Please sir may I have another tax break? The leather seats on my lear jet are cracked and need replacing.

So goes the horrible oppression of the rich in America. LOL

 

Incorrect. Heller applies to "all bearable arms", as per its own text.

 

Face the facts. The 2nd has been compromised up the ying ying, and that's going to continue.

I'll say it again, the NRA has lost its ability to negotiate a further compromise that's coming whether they or anyone else, likes it or not. At least for now. If they had understood what leadership was this wouldn't have happened, and a judge in Massachusetts wouldn't have done what he just did.

 

Prove it? LOL

 

so why did even the Scalia SCOTUS reject to hear any appeals of AWB laws?

 

Any organization of any govt which decides to usurp the people. The people have the right to own and carry the arms necessary to adequately defend themselves against any military or police force. You really should read Heller, not just parrot google cut-and-paste.

And I know you will now say that no civilian group will withstand the US military, but that attitude is pure ignorance of military and insurgency.

 

And your experience in insugency and counter insurgency is?

 

You really think a bunch of fat lazy yahoos are going to fight off our US military? The fat lazy yahoos don't have a tunnel system. The fat lazy yahoos don't have the advantage of fighting against an enemy that doesn't know the terrain. The fat lazy yahoos also won't have an endless supply of ammo, food supplies, first aid supplies, etc. And quite frankly...it doesn't say much for our military if you think a bunch of fat lazy yahoos can fight off what is arguably the best fighting military in the world.

 

The NVA had one of the top 5 conventional infantries in the world, according to Janes, at the time.

 

Cite where such has actually been held.

 

You really think if things so bad that armed insurrection ACTUALLY became necessary and justified that a lot of that best fighting military would actually be on the side of the fat lazy yahoos? I know I do.

 

I didn't find the phrase "compromised up the ying yang" in my copy of the Constitution. Perhaps I have a defective version?

 

No idea. No one can actually know that.

 

Rest assured, they would. I used to be one of them.

 

And yet you still can’t know it for sure.

 

I do. The Brits didn’t defeat the Irish in the late Teens and they didn’t in the North of Ireland during the ‘Troubles’. Both times the Brits were forced to the negotiation table.

 

Are you referring to the conflict that lasted about 30 years between nationalists (mainly self-identified as Irish or Roman Catholic) and unionists(mainly self-identified as British or Protestant) with only 3,500 killed?
Seems the British military wasn’t fully unleashed in a full military war.

 

Really!

They are not going to "hang" with the military, what's left of it once ordered to kill their own.

Then there are outsiders, do you think the Russians are going to just twiddle their thumbs if a revolution happens?

Heck no they will back the irregulars and provide them with some very good firepower and training.

Never forget, no one in the world will let a crisis go to waste.

 

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Those "fat lazy yahoos" live in the same neighborhoods that the families of that military and the families of those federal agents. Those "fat lazy yahoos" know who their kids are, where they go to school and where the spouses work.

How will the government even know which fat Americans are the "fat, lazy yahoos" they need to fight, or be protected against?

Once the food from the red states stops reaching the large Blue cities, the military will have their hands full with the riots and looting. Half the government will quit working for whoever is in charge, and 10% of the ones that stay will sabotage government efforts to attack their citizens.

 

And the EBT cards go useless too.

Very good post and very close to the reality of a new wave revolution in the U.S.

The libs who think the police and military will back their side are in for a awakening.

 

They were unleashed on Civilian areas in large numbers. Civil rights were not observed. Incarceration, in some cases in concentration camps without due process was practiced. Civilian assassinations were facilitated and condoned. Torture allowed... even on adelecents.
Large areas were designated ‘no go’, being unsafe for the military. The few ‘actives’ were supported by large segments of the population and operated with the knowledge of many. And, despite the general perception, the army was opposed by a force with very few weapons. Embedded insurgecies are extremely difficult to eliminate.
Well, at least you go some of the makeup of opponents right, not over generalizing the Catholic vs Protestant thing that many American’s do.

 

Uh.....and won. Lol