Mass Judge Rules AR-15's Not Protected By The Second.

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  1. vman12

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    It is for the lower courts.
     
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    I wonder if this judge knows AR15's are not used in any military.
     
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    No its not
     
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    So you're not aware that a lower court cannot overrule a SCOTUS decision.

    Sounds about right.
     
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    You have no point as usual. Lol
     
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    Yeah, that's what I figured.
     
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    Yeah me too. Lol
     
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    I don’t think the situation will ever actually happen. Just saying if it did happen it wouldn’t bode well for the fat and lazy citizens of the US.
     
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    It wouldn't bode well for anyone.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Nope
     
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    I guess you have never seen the border. Lol
     
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    I have crossed it far more times than you can count. But, the partition was part of a negotiated peace...itself the seed that ignited the Irish Civil war. But, that is easy to read on, but why the Partition was important to the Brits is not so easy to sort... and it is not relevant the discussion of an insrugency vs modern army, and probably not the OP, but your related posts have served to illustrate you have zero knowledge of what happened in Ireland in the 20th Century, the effectiveness of an insugency, or, in the case of Ireland or the UK what’s pending on the horizon. But, then, it is you...nothing but disruption to sow.
     
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    So why do you need firearms now if so many of our own military are going to desert, with their M4s and everything else they can grab, plus all the outsidsers who are going rush in with "good firepower and training"?

    BTW, very interesting that you see Russia coming to your aid. Even more intertesting when you couple it with this:

     
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    Oh, so this is a red vs. blue civil war now? Who said that?
     
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    Yeah the Brits gave up nothing and the Irish lost. Sorry Bobby sands....have a sandwich. Lol
     
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    The Brits gave up the Republic, will lose the North within two years, spent billions fighting, occupying Ireland, supporting a huge dole and may likely lose PM May in the next couple months.
     
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    They didn't want the republic. You think the troubles were a fight over the republic? They have the north and will keep the north and the irish got nothing. You have a lot to learn
     
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    The entire Troubles was nothing but a small skirmish when adding up the casualties compared to what happens when a conventional military is unleashed.

     
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    Like I posted, you are both wrong and clueless. Why do you persist in arguing from ignorance...right, stupid question, I know the answer.
    I was not only raised in Belfast, but well know the thinking of many of the players in North (many are friends I communicate with frequently), and am a contributor to Irish leaders on the profiling of political discourse in both the North and South. Want an education? Read An Phoblacht (I contribute articles), Belfast Telegraph, the Times, Independent, or any other Irish news or listen to RTE or spend time in the politics.ie forums before you opine; those that post on politics.ie, North or South, loyalist, republican, nationalist, or any allegiance will chase you off in short order...they are less kind than those here. One thing about the Irish different than here, most consume several news sources daily (I read 6-8 daily), are far more versed in political debate than most here.. you can’t participate in the national sport of political debate otherwise.... hell, many Irish news sources have more accurate (and timely) news of America and it’s political environment that many news sources here.
    Brexit is being thwarted thus far mostly by a single issue... care to guess what it is and what the stakes are?
    Many Irish share you view on guns; I don’t which is one reason I am in the US. But, little known here, is they may face the discussion of the 2A at some point because of a growing movement among some of the Irish. Care to guess that?
     
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    Look you can run but you know nothing about the troubles if you think Ireland won that conflict. You are just flat out wrong
     
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    Prove me wrong. You can’t.
    The ROI got its independence in 1921 (fact)...British lost it’s power there. The Republicans got the GFA in ‘98 and the right of self determination to decide to leave the UK and join the Republic by referendum, a likely proposition in the wake of Brexit. There is no one in the North of Ireland that would agree that the Brits won anything. It’s one reason why the DUP is threatening Brexit and PM May...they are seeking a return to pre GFA politics even if it results in a renewed conflict, something the RIRA & ONH, and CIRA are preparing to engage in should the DUP be successful with along with the Tories in Parliament. In the North, a majority now favor a UI with some in the DUP, even floating the idea of an independent NI. In the wake of all that, and the economic Collapse in the ROI, there is a growing movement in the ROI to petition the US to become the 51st state (yep, really) and first approached the Obama admin (he’s Irish, right?) and it’s still floating amid the Trump Admin.
    So, tell me how the UK won. It, like the EU, is faltering, and Ireland is a main thorn in that.
     
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    You think Ireland is going to become the 51st state? Dude put down the jameson's and sober up. The troubles were about getting a unified Ireland. The irish lost. The UK won. Those are the facts.

    So spin that Michael Collins. Lol
     
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    I didn’t say or advocate Ireland become the 51st state. I, in fact would oppose that, I see a better opportunity. Rather, it is a reflection of the power the Brits have lost over the island. BTW, the process of becoming a state isn’t as daunting as one might initially think. One aspect is having a state Constitution that Congess would approve of and interestingly enough, both their Declaration of Independence and their Constituion were modeled after the US’s.
    The Troubles were not about a UI...that is myth propagated by the BBS and while that is an emotional goal of some groups, the troubles were not inflamed for that goal. You swallowed a lie. Rather, the troubles began springing from the Riots, largely by loyalist factions violently trying to suppress the civil rights movement modeled after that in the US organized by the NICRA (Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association). The spark that lit the fire was the riot in the Falls Road neighborhood, August 12-19, 1969. How do I know? I was a signatory to the NICRA enumerated rights petition and my house, literally at ground zero, was burned to the ground. The old original IRA not only did nothing, but because they did nothing, caused the split from which the Provisional IRA emerged. So no, a UI wasn’t the spark that caused the troubles.
    The Brits won nothing. Clinton sent Mitchell over who helped broker a peace agreement that resulted in the GFA that restored home rule, provide amnesty, accepted the original NICRA petition and a prescribed path to a UI if the majority was for it... Brexit, opposed by nearly all in NI has opened the door.
    As I said, you know nothing; Swallowed a lot.
    Run along, peddle your snake oil elsewhere. On this topic, your absolute ignorance was exposed. I will not consume more space in this form debating your established ignorance on Ireland. Want to debate it, engage on politics.ie...learn something.
     
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    The Irish certainly won nothing. Northern Ireland belongs to the uk and the Irish won nothing. Those are the facts.
     

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