Mass Shootings -- Becoming More Common? Done mainly by Crazy People? And those Video Games?

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  1. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for this. The kind of response I was hoping for.
     
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    We can stop mass shootings if we make murder illegal....no wait.....you mean banning something does not stop some people from doing it?
     
  3. AFM

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    There is much more in the book which is available in libraries. It is at the Sacramento CA library but not yet as an ebook for electronic check out. The Kindle Reader now allows text to be copied and pasted which is very nice.
     
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    So? How long are you going to keep us in suspense? What country is the "single exception"?​
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are saying that anyone who commits such a crime is automatically "sick". That's like saying that every man who dies in war is a "hero". It is BS.
    Well then, if guns are only dangerous in the hands of "sick people" then the U.S. must be the home to more "sick people" than anywhere else on earth. Of all the nations in the world, as a consequence, the U.S. ought to be the last country to allow its' citizens to own guns.
    Either this is BS or the U.S. is the most unloving, uncaring nation in the world. Which one is true?
     
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    Every soldier who has died for the US is a hero.

    The US should enact reforms to the LPS based laws so that the mentally ill can receive proper treatment.

    Neither. The US must enact reforms as Hungary has to subsidize families. The US should reform the welfare system that incentivized single parent households.

    Red flag laws do nothing to address the treatment of the mentally ill. More mentally ill people are in prison than in treatment facilities.
     
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    Hell no. That premise, “if it saves even one life” is bogus morality. Morality isn’t about saving lives, it’s about living yours, beautifully, wondrously, and happily fulfilling.
     
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    B.S.
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    Yes, but that is not the main problem.
    Obviously.
    Mental illness is not the problem.
     
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    Oh look, a propaganda chart from the folks at Gunpolicy.org.....
     
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    Wrong the definition is from the DoD not the NRA and is incorrectly applied by GCA's who don't know better.
     
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    If you have an alternative analysis of the astronomical level of firearm fatalities in the permissive US, you are free to post it.

     
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    Are you unwilling to reveal the source of your irrelevant chart that does not compare the firearm fatality rates (homicides and suicides) of its cherry-picked nations?
     
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    It's first source was the NYT to which the deliberately left out nations where placed back into their cherry picked narrative based chart..
     
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    Mental illness contributes to the murder rate and mass shooting rate in the US and the world. That's very clear and obvious.
     
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    By the way suicides are not relevant to the discussion but are commonly added by GCA's to puff the numbers in an attempt to give credibility to their false narrative.
     
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    This ^^^ is one of the least understood due to dishonestly reporting issue with marijuana. There is a well documented link between heavy marijuana use, the increase in potency of marijuana available today, mental illness, and violent crime. Alex Berenson has written an excellent book on this subject entitled "Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence". The book is available at libraries in ebook format for electronic checkout.

    Berenson, Alex. Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence . Free Press. 2019 Kindle Edition.
     
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    You appear unwilling to reveal the source of your bogus chart.

    If you wish to support the extremely high level of firearm suicides in the US that also reflects the permissive availability of guns, that is your right.
     
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    This ^^^ is one of the least understood due to dishonestly reporting issue with marijuana. There is a well documented link between heavy marijuana use, the increase in potency of marijuana available today, mental illness, and violent crime. Alex Berenson has written an excellent book on this subject entitled "Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence". The book is available at libraries in ebook format for electronic checkout.

    Berenson, Alex. Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence . Free Press. 2019 Kindle Edition.
     
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    I explained how the chart was created and what I added to the fake news chart to demonstrate how selectively choosing nations can swing a chart one way or the other.

    Suicides will not be prevented by restricting firearms, one only to look toward Japan which has a much higher suicide rate then the U.S. and very little access to any form of firearms.

    But it is your right to promote you false and quite often childish narrative and have it disproved at every turn.
     
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    Your squirming aside, Americans, by an overwhelming margin, supports sensible measures to counteract the tragic consequences of permissive gun laws - homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings. Public pressure on elected representatives to stop pandering to special interests in the matter, along with exposure of the frauds that have been fleecing NRA members for fun and profit, will result in progress. Americans are not resigned to the US being the perennial firearm fatality leader among all advanced nations.
     
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    Got it!
     
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    It's quite clear you no little if anything about the NRA or it's membership, for had you bothered to take the time to do even the slightest bit of actual research you would clearly understand the total falseness of your claim.

    It all began in 1977 and is going as planned, actually better than planned once Hillary was bumped out of the way of the NRA's progress.
     

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