Mass Shootings -- Becoming More Common? Done mainly by Crazy People? And those Video Games?

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's one published by the joint CIA/NRA Office of Statistics.


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    As you can see, the U.S. has the lowest rate of gun-related crime in the world!
     
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    Staged by "bad guys" for lack of a more precise term, for the purpose of terror and advancing gun control. An example is that the bus transportation for the kids of Parkland to the capitol in Tallahassee were made prior to the actual event on the anniversary of the Valentine's Day Massacre in Chicago in the last century. Another is the certain presence of "play actors" at Pulse. I know a girl who was there, and she saw and posted regarding 2 shooters. Next day or two her post had been taken down.
     
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    100% of all perpetrators of murder and mass shootings in the US drinks (or has at one time) large quantities of milk. That compared to the tiny rate of those with mental illness makes your statistics irrelevant. That is certainly very clear and obvious.

    I repeat: mental illness is NOT the problem.
     
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    True enough, very well stated in fact, but, if these guys are smoking a bunch of pot and then committing mass murder, then all those dead folks aren't living beautifully, wondrously, and happily fulfilling lives, nor are those wailing in grief at their violent deaths.

    Our states that have legalized pot have seen a proven uptick in violence. There is also a proven dose dependent link between pot use and serious mental illness, and I'm not talking just depression, but the onset of multiple personalities. Keep in mind that the pot on the street today isn't what we smoked in college it's many times more powerful.

    The Left always wants to have a conversation about getting between us and our right to self defense, but even suggest similar controls between them and their pot, and it can't even be discussed?
     
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    ... as well as masturbation being the cause of stunted growth and pimples. Fine.

    But comic books and pornography DO affect the population in one way or the other. It cannot be denied that S/M pornography encourages certain behaviour and even straight heterosexual "missionary" pornography has its' effect on how each individual regards sexual behaviour. All of these things are a part of it but none is the root cause of mass murder. Social frustration lies at the bottom of the problem and those other things merely influence the details in which their frustration is expressed.
     
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    :roflol:

    We have the source of mass shootings, everyone. It's milk. :roll:
     
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    You are absolutely right. If universal background checks and red flag laws make sense for the purchase of guns, does it not make even more sense for the purchase of pot?
     
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    The trouble, of course, is that one can grow one's own pot.....
     
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    Mental illness is absolutely a significant factor in the homicide rates in the US and the world. The statistics are clear.
     
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    You'd better find another dealer. I've never known pot to encourage any kind of violence.
     
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    And one can make his own guns.
     
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    And one can easily illegally obtain a firearm in the US.
     
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    By definition someone who wants to commit a homicide is mentally ill.
     
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    You are not well informed.
     
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    Agreed in principle but the law is not written that way.
     
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    Might you inform us? I agree that pot is known to put people to sleep on a couch, NOT encourage violence.
     
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    And milk? Mental illness is a scapegoat for the pro-gun buggers. "Blame it on wackos and keep buying guns!" Take care of your population and stop the guns, for God's sake, and then you won't need to worry about mass shootings.
     
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    In less time than it takes to grow a marijuana plant.
     
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    See above. Post 119.
     
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    All I see is blue skies....

    Your unsubstantiated claim is not persuasive.
     
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    Angry Gun Nut (white man with ASSAULT Weapon) killed a Police officer yesterday in California...No doubt easily obtained it....Thankfully that Gun Nut is Dead
     
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    "Informed"? I am a Vietnam War Veteran of the mid-sixties and I was a university student during the latter part of that same era. Being "informed" has nothing to do with it.
     
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    So what? You can also make your own fire arm or grow your own magic mushrooms. Are you arguing that if you cannot regulate every gun sale that it's silly to regulate any of them?
     
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    No, I am arguing that regulation seldom accomplishes what it is supposed to, whether drugs or guns. The unintended consequences of legislation are known wide and far.
     
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    And what percentage of a nation of 350,000,000 are in that sample size?

    Is marijuana legalization driving increases in violent crime?

    The legalization of marijuana has not resulted in a reduction in crime, as we were told it would. The numbers show the results have been quite the opposite.

    In 2012, Colorado and Washington were the first states to legalize recreational use and possession of marijuana and eight states and the District of Columbia have followed suit. Other states have tiptoed into the foray by either decriminalizing possession of small amounts or legalizing use or possession of the drug for medicinal purposes. Proponents have pushed the idea that legalization would eliminate the underground, illicit market for marijuana and eliminate, or at least reduce, violent crime related to the illegal sale of the drug. But has legalization delivered on its rosy promise of peace and harmony, or has it just fueled a spike in violence?

    In Denver, the homicide rate has steadily climbed from 36 in 2013 to a peak of 67 in 2018. Seattle had 19 homicides in 2013, then the rate increased every year except 2016, reaching a peak in 2018 of 31 cases. Even the District of Columbia has experienced a resurgence of violence — reaching 160 homicides in 2018 after seeing a historically low 116 homicide cases in 2017. Homicides spiked more than 100 percent in January 2019, as compared with January 2018.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/crimina...galization-driving-increases-in-violent-crime

    We need to have a converstation about common sense laws regarding pot purchases. Universal Background Checks, 3 day waiting periods and Red Flag Laws need to be considered.
     
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