Maybe the media really is the enemy

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    The media is protected under the 1A, Trump is protected under the 1A, both granted free speech to say the most idiotic bs that comes to mind. When you dissect it further, as my comparison did, you see media and free speech is indeed mutual. The constitution talks of a free press, free press meaning the media. Whether it’s Meet The Press or Fox and Friends, it’s the same thing.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Figure out what a free press is, and you will see my response makes sense.
     
  3. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Well, I wasn't calling for suppression of speech, and neither is Trump. When he starts closing down newspapers, let me know and I'll go march against him somewhere with you.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Free means they can say and print what they want without government control or suppression. I'm not calling for either. It does not mean I can't call it propaganda and denounce it when I see it.

    And no one has yet explained why the errors are seemingly always adverse to Trump, conservatism, Republicans, capitalists, you know, the usual suspects. You don't find that the slightest bit odd?
     
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    Hmm... I still conclude, facts, not in evidence. I doubt that you understand that repeating an untrue assertion as "news" undermines your credibility. But hey, it makes you feel better, right?
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not just Democrats... But PROGRESSIVES.

    Both the DNC-E and the GOP-E are full of Progressives.

    Woodrow Wilson spent a great deal of time setting up Washington DC to become an elitist city. His first point of order was to segregate restrooms and hotel access.

    His second point of order was to establish media platforms which could be controlled.

    So basically, the news that is disseminated is selected and manipulated by the elites who control the purse strings.

    Trump was elected in spite of the massive amount of money thrown at him by both sides of the aisle.
    But they have not given up on trying to get him out of their way.
    The have their marching orders and a bunch of propaganda swayed fools licking their collective boots.
     
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    The press lords of the Alt Right media are the enemies of America.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is your response?

    In your mind, is CNN, MSNBC, BuzzFeed and others trying to manipulate the public by any means available or not?
     
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    I have heard talking bobbleheads radio like full blown communist Tom Hartmann or wack-a doodle Stephanie Miller actually say CNN and MSNBC are actually right-wing news outlets. That's how deep their denial goes.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can usually tell when someone is a committed Leftist. They can't ever bring themselves to admit that they know deep down inside that they are peddling BS.
     
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    I don't watch FOX. But go ahead and keep trying to use that an argument for... whatever it is you think it means...

    FOX should be called on its bias as much as the rest of the corporate establishment shill media. I suggest boycotting them all.
     
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    A Russian national was just found guilty in a US court (evidence) for having worked with the campaign. I'll allow you to find conflicting stories that Guliliani has gotten himself into, concerning his words, not newscasters, that are all over the internet.
     
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    How do you suggest the country gets its news, if you feel the free press is demonized?
     
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    If the media is supposed to hold the government accountable...then who holds the media accountable?
     
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    The alt right media's lackeys and running dogs today across boards and blogs etc ramp up a co-ordinated attack on the responsible press of responsible America.

    We see it above faltering on this Board with their message.
     
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    They were?? citation. It becomes clearer the more you post the less credible you become.
     
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    Viewers, as its always been.
     
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    Laughable at best.
     
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    MIght explain why CNN so desperately needs Trump to stay above water.
     
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    A knowledgeable electorate, which must have what John Adams termed 'civic virtue', monitors the press. Unfortunately, the alt right press monitors the Trumper right.
     
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    They never had any and the left runs the Journalism schools.
     
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    And thanks to the left's replacement of education with indoctrination over the last eighty years, most of the electorate now lacks the critical thinking skills necessary to monitor where their toe nail clippings fell.
     
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    Fox "News"?

    Agreed.
     
  24. Balto

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    Twice now I've proven your statements to be incorrect. So its not me losing credibility here, its yourself. Let's try solving the naivety here in a different way. How many times have you seen Rudy have to backpedal on a statement when he has made his rounds, Fox included, on the Sunday shows? Furthermore, a simple google search which I'm sure you didn't do judging from your response, resulted in this:
    https://sputniknews.com/us/201812131070661489-butina-plea-guilty-conspiracy/

    Care to try again?
     
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    The propaganda of the far right media has implanted false concepts of American thinking and has altered the right's ability to critically think.
     
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