McCarthy threatens to probe Garland after Trump FBI raid

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  1. Hey Now

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    Of course not, he would be able to spin, hand out talking points or fund raise then. Derp!
     
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    The warrant is under seal. Trump is cooperating with the FBI. Derp!
     
  3. Hey Now

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    Disinformation, Trump's lawyers can release the copy he was served with, it states the ground or basis for the search and seizure. His copy is his to do with as he pleases. You need new and better talking points, the "sealed" one is really dumb. Derp...
     
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    It is possible they could advance a serious blow to the Soviet-like purge. Although personally I'm frankly not sure the Republicans have the gumption when push gets to shove, and the purge is likely to continue.well into 2024 if not beyond.
     
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    I think to be accurate you should say the FBI, police,and HHS, Social Security Adm, the EPA, Department of Agriculture, NASA, et al stockpile arms and ammunition (starting around 2010). And it ain't to shoot dangerous bad guys who don't like to be caught.
     
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    Hahaha! At this point it is up to the FBI to make a statement. Why haven't they done so?
     
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    FBI can't. Per their rules, release the warrant, one page doc. The attachment to the judge laying out the evidence is sealed. Derp...
     
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    Oh well, " their own rules" but not by law. Perhaps Trump's lawyers have rules also so I guess you are out of luck.

    The FBI is keeping things quiet. They do not want Trump releasing anything. Derp!
     
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    Trump is not President anymore, and he did not declassify this information
     
  10. Hey Now

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    Was their a point you were failing^ to make? Rhetorical BTW..derp.
     
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    Of that we can be certain. With or without Vaseline!
     
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    That statement makes a weird assumption that isn't backed up by any evidence. The fact that Trump grabbed classified documents on the way out doesn't mean that he declassified them. What on earth makes you think otherwise?

    Back in reality, since Trump didn't declassify them, he stole classified material.

    Go on, argue your claim in court. Watch the judges and juries laugh.

    The question: Why did Trump steal classified material and hold on to it?

    My guess: He was planning to sell it to China or some other enemy of the USA. It's consistent with the evidence, and with the behavior of Trump and his followers.
     
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    Trump and his pals have already started screaming that the FBI planted evidence.

    That tells us that they know the FBI found good evidence. They wouldn't feel the need to make up a story about planting evidence if that wasn't the case.

    I'm letting you know here that you'll need to come up with some new excuse for your criminal hero, because you're going to need it.
     
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    Promises promises, seems like I've heard this before, oh wait the left has been promising major charges since day one he took office. I guess I'll wait and see because if they did these over documents, you just guaranteed a Trump landslide. In fact, I'll also say if Garland did this over archives and doesn't produce some kind of serious charge, they have destroyed the democrat party for years. I under no circumstance want Trump to run again but the lack of transparency here is helping his ass beyond belief, they better have something serious, or they will pay dearly. At this moment in time the DOJ is literally PROVING TRUMP IS RIGHT that he's been unfairly persecuted over and over by the intelligent services, DOJ and media. There better big a big charge soon.
     
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    He seems very scared, but we can for sure say it's finally time to put up or shut up and this country is demanding that on both sides.
     
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    Oh well that's believable lol. We'll see it's time to put up or shut up.
     
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    Crime must never pay especially from the Oval. The DOJ will take whatever time is necessary to bury POS45.
     
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    Perhaps he wants to provide a heads up to Garland to show how these things can be done in a more gentlemanly manner.
     
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    First, the raid was not about classified information, any classified information he had, he declassified as president. This was the pretext they used in order to get a search warrant to toss his house in the hopes that they could find something, anything, that would justify an indictment for a violent crime related to J6. At some point we'll get an inventory of what they removed, and we'll see.
     
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    no he did not declassify it, that is not how it works, he can't just look in the mirror and say, it's declassified, there is a process for that

    was he planning to sell this to Russia or China, what did he keep it for?
     
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    Yes he did.
    Yes it is.
    Yes he can.
    Imposed by who? He's constitutionally the Commander In Chief. It's amazing to me how many folks on the Left have no operationally understanding of Separation of Powers.

    But anyway, it doesn't matter, that was the pretext, there is never going to be any charges or litigation on a document dispute. They lied about what their reason for the search was so they could toss his house in search of a smoking gun that they could use on J6. They either found it or they didn't. We'll know soon enough. The smart money is on the proposition that just like all the rest of their fevered fantasies about Donald Trump that they have mentally masterbated since he came down the escalator six years ago, there is no more to their latest fantasy than the 20 before.

    The best thing about all this is how clearly they are communicating to the American People that the Deep State is rogue, heavily armed and exercises terrible judgement. To summarize, they are very dangerous and it's becoming crystal clear that the number one task for the GOP House when they regain control is hauling these lawless sons of bitches into the chambers, putting them under oath, and using the full weight and authority of oversight to get to the very bottom of the rot that has deeply infected the entirety of the FBI and DOJ. And they have a lot of unused power that the GOP has never before used in these endeavors. It's going to become very difficult to justify not using the full weight and might of their constitutional power which is enormous when they are operating in their oversight capacity.

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    One Standard For Dems, Another For The GOP.
     
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    If Trump were a gentleman you'd have a point.

    Trump and the gov had been going back and forth for over a year. Trump returned a bunch of documents, but the gov knew some were missing. They have been patiently trying to get them back. They asked for them, met with people down in Mar A Lago, but they still wouldn't return them.

    What good would a subpoena do? Trump defied them in the past and got away with it. No way would that work, here. No, an FBI search warrant signed by a federal magistrate, that's the solution. That is the only solution, in this circumstance, and know that there is evidence the FBI believes is at Mar-A-Lago and that evidence are documents of national security importance Trump is withholding. There is no way in hell the gov would have gone to this length if this wasn't true, nor would a federal magistrate signed a warrant and if the FBI didn't have above and beyond probable cause is this wasn't true.

    You don't play nice with someone like Trump, he's out to game the system, to get away with anything he thinks he can get away with, he has proved this about himself many times in the past. As for 'Gentleman', that is one thing Trump is not.

    Garland, Wray, and the magistrate these are not stupid people, they know what the blowback will be, but they obviously reasoned that it would far more damaging, potentially, to the country if they didn't send in the FBI than if they did.
     
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    There is nothing political in Garland's approval of the search.

    He is following the law. When there is probable cause, and the evidence supports it, you act according to the law. Who you are matters not.

    He is living up to his vow. You are implying that any action against a president must be political. If that were true, then the president could commit crimes with impunity. Sorry, no one is above the law not even Trump.

    Political firestorm? According to who? The radical right? BFD.
     
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    Congrats on a well thought out and explained in detail position. 'Onya.
     

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