McConnell prepares to move forward on impeachment trial rules without Democrats

Ok no law is broken . I will never say Trump isn't innocent.
But at least they should explain why withholding the aid.
We should know what was the process.

 

They accused for personal gain.

The withholding of aid alone in not a charge

 

Because he isn't charged with "facts". He is charged with the Democrats presumptions about what his intentions were. That's why they have a weak case. The "facts" of the investigation request and withholding of funds are not illegal acts.

 

Why? No President has had to before.

 

True. But they can do that only by witnesses .
I can't understand you do know that Trump didn't do anything so by that logic witnesses can't do any harm to him . Infact the witnesses will disgrace the democrats .
SO WHAT IS BETTER THAN THE WITNESS TESTIMONY FOR TRUMP???

 

OK .All that you said are true. The only thing I'm saying is that let's have witnesses in that trial .
I don't think anyone not demorats nor repulicans want to have a president that did these criminal acts that democrats are implying .
So now that we are in the trial . Let's have witnesses and have a good trial . If they couldn't prove that Trump is guilty, then good for him

 

The impeachment/removal process is often compared to a normal civil or criminal court trial because it is similar, but it is not the same.

Technically, the impeachment phase in the House should produce all the witnesses the prosecution needs to convict the case and provide for defense witnesses to make a case for innocence. After that, the Articles are voted on and "closed". The Senate trial, having heard all the evidence existing in the House Articles, just needs to hear closing statements and hold votes on innocence or guilt.

It is not the Senate's place to extend the hearings of evidence beyond what the House found. Pelosi is asking McConnell to finish her sloppy job for her. That's not his job. His job is to review her articles and vote.

 

Because somehow we ARE in trial.

 

That's true. But the Senate can extend the hearings and evidence. Because in all hearings maybe we have some sloppy person like Pelosi. So the Senate is provided with that option to extend evidence.
And since no one saw any of Trump's staff in those hearings, Why dosen't the Senate try to be sure and hear those people?

 

Due to highly partisan extremism.

 

Just because something could far-fetched theoretically be done doesn't mean it's gonna be done.

 

Frequently if a court has an extremely sloppy prosecutor, like Pelosi, the defense asks the judge to dismiss the case on lack of evidence or lack of proper process and often the judge agrees.

McConnell is generous to schedule a trial and hear from Nancy's prosecutors. He could help her cover up and fix her errors. Why would he? Nancy's biggest mistake was going ahead with an impeachment vote which lacked any bipartisan support.

 

No one should be justified to wrong doing because of wrong diongs of someone else in past .
NOW we are in trial and this trial should be held in a manner that all possibilities are considered.

 

That's exactly the Democrats position. We were extremely unfair, but now you need to be totally fair. Good luck with that.

 

So he will do the trial and won't "dismiss" it. So he should do it right.

Why wouldn't he? He knows Pelosi was sloppy so why dosn't conduct a truly honest trial by providing informations as much as he can? Isn't that why he is in the Senate to serve justice and try hard to make the truth revealed? Or he is there to just defend his party at all cost.

 

McConnell will be at least every bit as fair and non-partisan as Pelosi/Schiff/Nadler have been.

 

If Pelosi is evil McConnell doesn't get to be evil . That doesn't justify this.
You're getting out of logic's line and you know that.

 

Logic had nothing to do with Pelosi's decision to call for a formal impeachment vote after 100 hours of House public hearings turned up nothing but partisan opinion, supporting the left.

Don't ask for logic to "start" now.

 

Look FYI I'm not a democrat and you can insult them as much as you want. But McConnell dosen't have the right to be partisan here . It's a trial and should be utterly fair by using as much as evidence and information they can get. And needs WITNESS TESTIMONY.

 

I agree. This is the lesson the House Democrats need to learn:

For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. - Matthew 7:2.

 

McConnell already said it will proceed like the Clinton trial. Problem is there are no high crimes or misdemeanors in the articles.

 

This is political, has been since 6-15-2015, and it's time for McConnell to go for the jugular.

 

What you're actually saying is that Pelosi gets to be evil, but McConnell doesn't get to be evil. Sorry, but there's no logic in that, just partisanship; your partisanship.

 

Clinton's trial can't be a good model fot Trump's. Because back then Clinton's trial's rules were backed by democrats and republicans that was bipartisan .
And the senate was controlled by the republicans and they could call any witness they wanted without andvance agreement . Democrats can't do that now.
And more importandly all relevant witnesses had already testified before the trial.
There's nothing similar here.

 

No I'm not saying that at all. It's a trial that is handed over to McConnell and his duty is to do it fair and right . He doesn't get to say "the one who handed it over to me didn't do her duty so I won't do mine too".
And to be clear no one here is saying that Trump is guilty . I'm only discussing the manner of trial.