McDonald's is rolling out self-service kiosks. Adios, cashiers ?

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  1. Herkdriver

    Herkdriver New Member

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    If it was up to me, every elementary school would begin to teach basic coding along with the reading, writing and arithmetic. Automation still doesn't program itself. Start kids early to think along the lines of computer logic.
     
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    stepped_in_it Banned at Members Request

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    Then, you might want to stay at home......
    Automated <fill in the blank> is just a few short years from being everywhere......
     
  3. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you don't use ATMS?
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Yes.

    BUT THE ROBOT COMMUNITY IS VERY EXCITED: N.Y. Business Community Outraged by $15 Minimum Wage for Fast-Food Workers: Gov. Cuomo celebrates his victory and promises itÂ’s just the beginning.

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/212155/

    You can capitalize tech, you cannot capitalize payroll, and in today's ultra-low interest rate environment, that really gives tech and leg up on minimum wage employees.
     
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    Most of the wealth of this nation exists in processes. And the biggest reason America is having trouble growing our economy, is that so many of us claim to be unable to make greater contributions to those processes.

    If the folks you're talking about could, those already stretched thin would would be happy to put more of those processes into their hands. Folks would have higher paying jobs and the net wealth of this nation would expand. We'd all benefit.

    If the folks you're talking about can't, well... seizing processes you can't maintain would only crash those processes. And the wealth people imagine they'd be taking by force would evaporate. We'd all loose.





     
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    Since 2008, the development of self-assembling code has received a lot of attention. But yea, as long as we have problems we'll have jobs.

    Changing the focus of education from amassing facts to solving problems is an important transition in education. We need to make that transition earlier in the process. Too many of our citizens, never make it. And we can't afford that anymore.





     
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    I do when I don't have cash on hand and I use the teller so they don't loose their jobs.This is also one more step to socialism being used everywhere, since people can't or will not be able to afford to be reeducated in computer programing.

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    That's odd because I know of a few stores that don't have them
     
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    McDonald's has been on the decline for a long time. They're getting desperate. The fact that they are having difficult times has to do with the product they offer, and the fact that their sales have been on the decline because fewer people want the garbage they sell. I predict McDonald's goes the way of the dinosaur in 10 years, and good riddance.

    http://fortune.com/2015/04/22/mcdonalds-sales-decline/
     
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    That prediction, seems unlikely to be a safe bet.

    McDonald's claims the 68th biggest economy in the world, bigger than Ecuador.




     
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    In most cases, all stockholders pulling out the money they invested in a company would bankrupt the company.

    Stockholders are the people who employ those workers.





     
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    "That's odd because I know of a few stores that don't have them"

    That's odd that you would actually make a claim of "knowing a FEW stores that don't have them".........

    I also know of a few barber shops last popular in the 60's.....and a few Mom & Pop hardware stores......ETC. All will be gone in under 10 years!
    Betcha you still do all your shopping at a brick store......
     
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    Correction,...as long as the people with resources have problems we'll have jobs.
    Because you can have all the problems in the world, but if you don't have access to the resources necessary to solve the problems
    you're not going to be able to create a job for someone else, at least not a paying one, neither will you be able to do the work yourself.

    That is why things like increased automation will force us to face our own societal problems,
    because if we allow all the resources and all the problem-solving automation to be accumulated by a wealthy few,
    the rest of us are going to find ourselves in a world of hurt.

    -Meta
     
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    Taco Bell has started implementing that in the states. Works for drive-through too.




     
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    Not resources, productivity. If my neighbor does my taxes and I clean up his yard we both get a job.

    Yes, if you don't have anything to offer you get less of a vote on what get's done. But we're not likely to let you starve. Feeding you will still be someone's job. You just won't be the one paying for that service.



     
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    I asked if you have used an atm not a teller. Its either yes you have or no you have not.
     
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    Some people won't. But if the business is more profitable even without them as a customer ... the industry will keep moving in that direction regardless of their choice.

    New efficiencies drive business. There was a time when some folks asserted "they'd never" buy a pizza over the phone or a book from a website.




     
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    Yes resources. Neither of you will have such jobs enabling you to be productive if one of you does not have a yard to clean and the other assets and or an income of money for which to file taxes for.

    Yes, I would hope we wouldn't let people starve. Though it has happened in the past and even today there are plenty who call for the end of things like SNAP and TANF.

    -Meta
     
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    You're looking at two independent decisions.

    If the business is more profitable using an iPad instead of a high school student at the counter, the business will decide to use the iPad.

    If the business needs to give money to people, so they will buy from the business. Then it will decide to give them the money. It'll probably be called taxes and welfare instead of a wage.

    That said, the strategy of paying people to buy your products rarely works well.





     
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    if every kid was guaranteed a B on their report card, do you think the majority would work hard to get an A? And, if there was no benefit to getting the A such as a college scholarship, higher paying job etc, do you think even less would strive for the A?

    So feel free to keep railing on about pushing up wages for absolutely nothing in return from the employees
     
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    New Take on an Old Idea, Part 1...

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    Look for the hamburger-flippers to be replaced by automatons in the not-too-distant future, as well...

    "What does it profit a country, if it raises the minimum wage, only to put hundreds of thousands of hamburger-flippers back on unemployment?"

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    "Is... a puzzlement."
     
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    I said I do but only when I don't have access to a teller.....I guess you failed reading class 101 back in school.... And here I thought consertives where against socialism, since you will need socialism to feel the void....
     
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    *shrug* One wants sex, the other want's a bodyguard.

    Not that I see how having an income enables me to clear your yard, or how having a yard enables you to do my taxes. Those 'resources' were involved only as a liability, they didn't enable either to meet the others need or compensate that other.




     
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    Haha, the burger flippers have priced themselves out of the market.

    I feel bad that they're going to be on the street now, but so many of them support the minimum wage that I just can't feel sympathy for them as a whole. What did they think would happen?

    PS: in Spain they had this all set up. It operated really quite poorly. I ended up getting in the long line for an actual human attendant because I wanted to make a special order that the machine didn't seem to tolerate. One day fast food places will have a manager and a maintainence worker on shift at any given time, and machines will make the food and take your order. Where does that leave the workers?

    At the Democratic/Labor voting booth. At the Centrelink office. Scouring through bins for food. Tough (*)(*)(*)(*), you made your bed - now your employment is illegal.
     
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    Try reading your original sentence again. I asked you to answer it again because you made a conflicting statement. So basically in addition to insulting people you criticize others for using automated services but use automated services yourself. Also for future reference...since you are a stickler for reading....when someone asks you if you have used an atm machine...just say "yes". I didnt ask you if you preferred a human. Now could you please explain how you are not a hypocrite having used automated tellers? Why didnt you wait for the bank to be profitable enough to have human tellers all the time?
     
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    Don't be so ridiculous. Those examples are only about price gouging a trapped audience. Theatres are another prime example of legalized robbery at the snack counter. They have nothing to do with the cost of an item.
     

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