Meanwhile 60% of top diplomats leave State Dept

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If these 60% are part of the cadre that drove our idiotic foreign policy for the last 30 years in the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama years, I say...good riddance..
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    you obviously are a super genius as far as organization
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    I don't know; have you written anything? I bet it's amazing.
     
  4. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'll have to forgive me if I think your characterizations of Obama and hillary are nothing more than extreme partisan venom. Cherry pick facts to support a venomous narrative and attitude. You know what you know, you don't need to know any more. I get it.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are the INSTRUMENTS of American foreign policy. THE POLICY IS IN THE HANDS OF THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS.

    That instrument and its continuing smooth operation is the very reason that there is a smooth transition of power and exercise of america's diplomatic political power while implementing the presidents foreign policy. Until trump that is who didn't like a bad idea until somebody told him it was a bad idea.
     
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    I'm fine with these Obamaites leaving, the Obama State Depart was horrible. Hillary may be the most corrupt politician to ever head the State Department. That the folks from that era are leaving is as good as what we would have if we fired them, which I fully support.
     
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    It's been a year, we have transitioned, these Obama/Hillary/Kerry clowns can scram now.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No,not at all. Just highly experienced and well read.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I used to write columns in various publications, and delivered a dozen or so conference papers, but that was back in the day. when the "network" was :uucp. From then on I mostly wrote internal marketing and positioning papers and strategic planning reports for clients.
     
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  10. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    When you lose the argument you attack the person's state? Is that what you call intellectual debate?

    Face reality. Obama has one of the worst foreign policy records in history and if any these morons who are leaving aided him in any way good riddance.

    Still waiting for you to prove that.
     
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  11. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    And your emotionally based partisan Venom aimed against Trump is somehow superior. Wow.
     
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  12. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I heard about a red line drawn then nothing done by the biggest coward of a president we have ever had.

    He capitulated to Iraq and backed away from allowing US forces to stay which would have contained ISIS.

    He deposed Gaddafi with no plan whatsoever for the aftermath and turned Libya into a war zone further increasing a mass exodus of that country.

    He drew and red line and allowed it to be crossed for the first time in US history for any president. The result was more death and more migration from Syria.

    He was a disaster combination of ignorance and willful stupidity and its pathetic you are trying to defend that record of failure.
     
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  13. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not at all. its deliberate reflection by design. It is conscious decision with willful intent to step down into the gutter along with my opponents.

    I can't help having been paid to study both the use of language AND the science of human information processing amongst other disciplines, along the way.
     
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  14. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was referencing the poster\s eponymous username.

    Oh? What evaluation process did you engage in to arrive at such a conclusive opinions. A bumpersticker devoid of anything but an emotional partisan assessment is hardly a something just any idiot would believe.
    I would not use the term moron so recklessly.


    I stay away from using big words and complex concepts associated with complex problems when dealing with you and yours. So I'm not surprised you can't infer from the evidence so far proffered.[/quote]
     
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  15. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    How intellectual of you. :)

    And I can't help but not believe a word of your unproven background. Your lack of argument alone is far more revealing.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    LOL That's what I just said. You lost the argument so you attack his state. Childish of course and painfully predictable.

    Yes I would say that too if I had no argument no evidence to support it and had to rely on unsupported claims of super genius to make up for it. :)

    If you spend more time trying to convince others you are smarter than them than your debate prep and evidence you've already proved my point. :)
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can only assume your lack of understanding of my reference is a function of cognitive dissonance.


    [q/uote]
    Yes I would say that too if I had no argument no evidence to support it and had to rely on unsupported claims of super genius to make up for it. :) [/quote]

    I make no claim of super genius and never have. I merely claim to be highly experienced and well read. The fact I consider stuff that you didn't know existed is not a testament to my super genius, its a testament to your lack of knowledge.


    I entirely understand you ignorance that some people in this world need to learn stuff to succeed. You know like all those people who have spent decades learning the skills and knowledge of their profession. I don't have to convince myself than I am smarter than most since its just a fact. But that doesn't make me worth any more than any other decent human being on the planet. It simply better informs my ideologies, perspectives and opinions. Doesn't do much for my emotion well being.

    my intelligence is as much an accident of birth as your skin color.
     
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  18. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I keep trying to tell you guys, but I'm glad you finally got the message.



    I don't give a crap.
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    with that generic, buzz word bingo dime store motivational speaker shtick, im sure you are a revered follower of the 21 rules of leadership.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    EVidence of the decline of american international standing and diplomatic power.




    released today
    http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx

    World's Approval of U.S. Leadership Drops to New Low
    by Julie Ray

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    • Median approval of U.S. leadership is 30%, down from 48% in 2016
    • U.S. approval dropped substantially in 65 countries and areas
    • Germany's leadership now tops that of U.S., China and Russia

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rs-couldnt-be-happier/?utm_term=.5b14bfad4266

     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never heard of it, but I just googled it to see WTF you are whinging about.

    I see it is yet another of f about 100,000 books on leadership printed over decades. Me, I was partial to IN search of excellence, back in the day. Did you pick this one because he's got the biggest number of rules in your own google search? Or, Did you pick this one out from your own reading experience?

    No worries I have no expectation of intellectual integrity from your kind.
     
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    You know, the worst thing about this country is the Totalitarianism.

    People go around and act as if there is freedom in America,
    and there isn't.


    Ask the Britons if there is freedom w/ 1000 survelliance cameras
    in London.


    Trump tries to change things in America, and Democrats want to
    remove him from office already.


    The thing worst about this country is the Totalitarianism.

    YOUR FREEDOM IS A PACK OF LIES ...





    :thumbsdown::wtf:
    ...
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is freedom. Its always under assault but there is freedom. It isn't complete. It isn't unfettered. It is however DEFINED.

    Change the definition. There is no way for the masses to actual pull the levers of power, they can only choose the pullers.
     
  24. freakonature

    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    I picked it because I was forced to read it, and you remind me of the prevailing theme.
     
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    The thing worst about this country is the Totalitarianism, w/ 1000 survelliance cameras in America, and a completely government controlled, censored media ...

    OUR FREEDOM IS A PACK OF LIES ...


    You Democrats are so blind with hatred you won't admit it when your own Party is fascist.

    Who sent the older generation to freaking Vietnam - the Democrats !




    :thumbsdown::roll:
    ...
     
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