Michael Brelo, Cleveland Patrolman, Found Not Guilty In Deaths Of 2 Unarmed Suspects

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree, however; where we, from the secure comfort of our living room laptop, define "under control" in a dynamic violent interaction IS NOT where those involved personally in the unfolding drama perceive it. The human mind at rest verses in fear does not respond the same or even see the event the same. Endorphins, adrenalin and a dozen other neurotransmitters triggered in a fight of flight responce change the entire function of the brain. Time is skewed, some senses and portions of the brain are turned off entirely and where the at rest mind sees a diminution in hostile threat the mind in survival mode remains activly focused on the threat until it is dead or stops moving. The chemicals and neurotransmitters involved have to be metabolized out of the blood stream, and that takes more than a few seconds.

    That is the reality, or perhaps limit, of our physical makeup and that understanding of it must be incorporated in the judgment process.

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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A fleeing felon evading capture or attempting escape? Yes, in many cases they should be shot.

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    Actually. A tailpipe caused a bang. That set of the pursuit to hunt down and massacre 2 black unarmed civilians by white cops. That ended with the cop standing on the hood unloading his weapon at his victims.

    And since the judge ruled that is perfectly ok to go Mad Max because you got a badge,.. than that is the justice the sick world of the US lives in. Everybody else would think,.. they are out of their f*cking minds in that barbaric country.

    It actually starts to make sense, that when black and the US cops are in pursuit,... that you flee for your life.
     
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    If people in the military can exercise restraint in hostile environments, the police can be trained to do the same.
     
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    Thats not what the judge said. Dont you think you owe it to yourself to hear what he did say?
     
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    Yeah, the judge said it couldn't be proven that the hood cop meant to kill the couple. Since when are cops trained to shoot to disable only; because that's the only possible reason I can possibly imagine the judge might have been considering. Frankly this judgement stinks to high heaven.
     
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    The judge said Brelo fired two shots that could have killed Williams and one shot that could have killed Russell, but the evidence did not meet the standard for voluntary manslaughter.

    "Proof of voluntary manslaughter requires finding beyond a reasonable doubt," the judge said.



    So that is exactly what I said before.
     
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    The judge states his reasons-theres no need for you to imagine.
     
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    my concern is cost. Maybe if the cops had to buy their own bullets they would actually aim before they fire.
     
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    You're just venting that is not. But that is the reason. I quoted him before. You're just being the troll.
     
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    No, when a person is brought up on charges-the charges mean something.
     
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    What the Judge said is... Brelo fired two shots that could have killed Williams and one shot that could have killed Russell, but the evidence did not meet the standard for voluntary manslaughter. Proof of voluntary manslaughter requires finding beyond a reasonable doubt.


    So even when he fired something like 40 to 50 bullets at them including the 15 when he stood on the hood pumping them at his victims through the window.... there is still "reasonable doubt" that he killed them in that absolute carnage. That is a type of justice, that you would expect from some typical banana republic lead by some crazy dictator massacring people by the thousands.
     
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    When the car backfired and cops started giving chase because they thought they were shot at; why did the two blacks drive at 120 mph in 30 mph zones and risk thousands of pedestrian lives and cop lives (not to mention their own) for like 20 minutes? Why didn't they just pull over and said "sorry - car backfired"? Then the cops could have gone through the vehicle, found no weapons, and said "go get your car tuned up". But no - they had to run like thugs with something to hide, and endanger anyone on the streets of Cleveland.
     
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    Well, there's some good news. Cop freed for doing his job by ridding the streets of trash.
     
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    Would you say a 100 mph vehicle on a 30 mph city street is a "deadly weapon"? If you drove 100 mph for 20 minutes through city streets with 50 to 75 cops chasing you, would you be putting the lives of the public and the cops at risk? Do you think blacks should be allowed to put white lives at risk with no repercussions in order to avoid offending Sharpton. Jesse, The Black Panthers, and the NAACP?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/31/cleveland-car-chase-russell-williams-police-shooting

    The chase had begun when an officer thought he heard a gunshot from a car speeding by the police and courts complex, jumped into his patrol car and radioed for help. Police don't know why Russell didn't stop.

    The chase involved five dozen cruisers and wove through residential neighborhoods, onto Interstate 90 and eventually ended in east Cleveland. McGinty said the chase covered 20 miles over 23 minutes and reached speeds of 110mph.
     
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    Well.... so much for your "A fleeing felon evading capture or attempting escape? Yes, in many cases they should be shot"
    And being shot at is one thing. Being blown apart by hundreds of bullets.... really.
    Pretty much says it all, that trying to run away from psycho's with a badge is a valid reason when unarmed.
     
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    This wasn't the first time this guy was involved in a police chase. The fact of the matter is if they didn't run none of this would have happened. Should we be looking at police's use of force in departments nationwide? Yes. But in the meantime how about people use some common sense and not take off from the cops for absolutely NO reason!
     
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    IIRC, they deceased were also under the influence of some heavy drugs at the time.

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    Just to put it out there-you dont run away from cops, you comply-even if they are wrong.
     
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    I wonder what happens when a cop approaches a suspect who happens to be another cop...
     
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    You do something called "tinning".
     
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    That much is certain.
     
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    Why am I not shocked?


    Why do blacks not understand this simple logic?

    Actually, read this article written by an Atlanta Lawyer. It's from the book "Face to Face with Race": http://www.amren.com/features/2014/05/confessions-of-a-public-defender/
     
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    He ran from cops. This is a simple case of blacks not taking personal responsibility. If he pulled over and put his hands out the window of the car instead of driving 120 mph through city streets for 25 minutes, he would still be here today. Guaranteed. Blacks prefer to be "stupid in a no stupidity zone". I don't know why they do that; but they do. And sometimes they end up dead.
     
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    Conidering that the cop safely stood on the hood of the car, and shot the people inside, 15 times, is top notch evidence of evil intent by the shooters.
    But, it wasn't only the one guy on the hood that did the killings. The rest of the kill crazy gurus of public safety also participated.
    What kind of people decided that this was proper civilized behavior?
     
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    Cops beat and kill people all the time who stop. If the cops had any sense of respect for the public, they wouldn't chase people at high speeds through the streets.
    Why don't we ask the driver why he didn't stop? Oh, yeah, the cops executed him. Dead men can't talk!

    In Riverside, California, a Black girl was sleeping in her car at a gas station. Some "helpful" cops wanted to wake her up. So they shot her 39 times because she had a pistol laying on the seat next to her. And, of course they blamed it all on the sleeping girl.

    Too many cops in the US are insane. I had a relative try and get a job as a cop. They rejected him because he didn't have a bully personality.
     

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