Millions of Americans Are Embarrassingly Ill-Informed

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  1. garyd

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    Doesn't matter without self discipline you will have in the long run neither internal or external tranquility.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    you don't need as much self-discipline in Tranquil environments.
     
  3. garyd

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    But you won't have tranquil environments without it.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    sure we can; ensuring the domestic Tranquility and security of a free State, is a States' right.
     
  5. Orwell

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    Intelligently thought out and explained. Thank you.
     
  6. Orwell

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    Countries with large populations, such as Germany and Japan, have been very successful over the last half century at maintaining excellence in their education programmes.
     
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    What a joke.

    Your babble is an excellent demonstration of a liberal who can't address facts.

    1.The facts are liberals support teacher unions who support incompetent teachers.

    2. liberals are opposed to any "proven to work alternatives" that threaten the unions.

    3. obama closed a very successful inner city Charter School to appease his union buddies.

    All of the above are facts, not opinions.

    It's plain to see liberals are more concerned with unions, their money and support, than

    they will ever be with actually educating kids.

    Lets see if you can address these facts without your dogma..............
     
  8. danielpalos

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    It isn't like the right doesn't prefer to Appeal to Ignorance of the law in favor of morals from the Iron Age; allegedly.
     
  9. publican

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    Non responsive dodge.
     
  10. danielpalos

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    Alleged conservatives are just as bad for being willing to pay the wealthiest their multi-million dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare.
     
  11. publican

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    Get over it. And prove that corporations get welfare. Keep dodging BTW.
     
  12. danielpalos

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    did you miss the Peoples' bailout of wealthy Capitalists?
     
  13. longknife

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    When it comes to education, liberals completely ignore FACTS like you presented.

    It's like taking a whiz into the wind. :)
     
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    Not at all; some on the left know we don't have Perfect Knowledge of any given Thing; only the right appeals to the ignorance of cognitive dissonance while proclaiming they are for the "gospel Truth".
     
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    Wait a moment! Wasn't that back durring the Occupy Wall Street movement when the nation's youths were trying to make some obscure economic points by crapping on cop cars, raping one another, spouting bigoted and racist spews, attempting to blow up bridges and succeeding in burning down buildings all while overdosing from heavy drugs usage? I noticed that something or the other finally made them revolt against their own financial sponsor George Soros and their organizer Van Jones and the fellow who announced how wonderful they were to the world, Barack Obama; but I was never clear just WHY they turned against those guys and against Michael Moore and Rossie O' Donnell and et.al.
     
  16. publican

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    Did you miss them paying it back with interest? The govt actually made money on it. Now tell the class how much money welfare recipients have paid back............that's what I thought.
     
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    Should they have clamored for a more serious relationship with Equality (before the law) and enjoined their unemployment department to bear true witness to a recognized federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding employment at will;

    simply so they could organize better and have a more comprehensive petition for redress of grievances?

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    It is more difficult to produce a positive multiplier effect through "payments in kind" than it is, simply through a more perfectly competitive medium of exchange like fiat money.
     
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    blah, blah, blah.........was the 'corporate welfare' paid back? How about the other welfare?
     
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    I thought it was interesting that a large number of right wingers liked your post. Especially since teaching critical thinking is the principal objective of the Common Core!
     
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    yes; unemployment compensation effected through a perfectly competitive medium of exchange, produces a positive multiplier effect.
     
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    Yes what? Outside of the corporations who were given loans that some irresponsibly call 'corporate welfare', who else paid their welfare back? And the Pelosi argument is weak and you're using it off topic. I said welfare, not unemployment which has a shelf life. Typical dodge and diversion.
     
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    are you unfamiliar with the concept of a positive multiplier effect?

    There should be no "shelf life"; it should only end when labor can command a prevailing market based wage.
     
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    Don't you think it a little odd that at the exact same time that the bankers were “paying it back” that government debt increased about the same as the debt that the bankers supposedly payed back? Government drastically increases its share of the debt, spending the money on ANYTHING WHATEVER, and the bankers profits soar at the exact same time. Just a coincidence? What you actually witnessed is the largest transfer of debt ever recorded in the history of the world. The bankers transferred their debt to the government, it is now a taxpayer liability. They told you they paid it back, and you believed them. LOL.
     
  24. TomFitz

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    This is actually a cultural thing in the United States, and it goes back a long way.

    Remember that the waves of immigration that settled the US in the 19th Century was made up of people who wanted to leave the Old World behind. Not a few of them wanted to leave the miltary draft behind, and the fear that they might wind up in one of Europe's periodic wars.

    For them, "no foreign entanglements" became a cornerstone of American foreign policy. And they concentrated on building their own new world.

    Americans have long been ignorant of history, politics and world affairs. For all the talk about freedom here, most Ameircans take it for granted (something you'll see in the low voter turnout in US elections).

    By the 1890's, Americans, particularly those from the Mid West and South (the areas today known as "red state" America) had developed a deep sense of parochial isolation. They knew little about the outside world, and didn't care to know more. That attitude is very much alive today.

    This ignorance, and the preference for isolation fueled the America First movement. Ironically, it also fueled the anti communism hysteria of the decade after the war. Joe McCarthy's anti communist rants came from the same jingoistic, isolationist place that Lindberg's America First speeches did. A deep fear and distrust of anything foreign.

    It manifested itself in the John Birch Society, and the rise of the political religious right. The tea party is infused with it, and it's a core message in American conservative media.

    Of course, conservatives are not alone in this by any means. Most American are woefully ingnorant of world affairs, government, geography and politics.

    Half a century ago, William J Lederer wrote "The Ugly American", a collection of short stories intended to show the consequences of this sort of ignornace when applied to people who were world leaders.

    Perhaps, an even better example is Graham Greene's "The Quiet American".

    American media has always paid scant attention to international affairs. And the audience doesn't care. All you have to do is look around Political Forum to see that. It is worse with conservatives than it is with liberal, but the differences is often one of degree, more than substance.
     
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    Yes. You are making the Pelosi argument that unemployment is good for the economy. I heard you the first time. But I said welfare. Welfare can go on for many years. Try not to mix apples and oranges.

    The market does pay the prevailing wage. You seem to lack the understanding what 'prevailing wage' means. You get paid what you agree to take the job for. That is command.

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    Watch out for them there black helicopters pardner.
     

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