Minimum-wage workers are cheaper than slaves

Should have said that a higher percentage of 16-19 yr olds are minimum wage workers than any other age group.


Only 2.9% of workers 25 or older are getting paid minimum wage. Most workers are over age 25.

There are about 75 million hourly workers in the U.S. Of those, 4 million are under 19. 60 million are over 25. 21% of 16-19 yr old workers work for/under minimum wage. 2.9% of 25+ workers work for/under minimum wage.

Regardless, only about 5% of all workers are working at or below minimum wage.

 

Yeah I have full command of the logic. Thats why I get paid a lot. I think things through where others cant. Others need to be baby stepped through it. Like this:
1) Why cant the minimum wage worker get a $45 an hour job?
2) Why would an employer pay someone $45 an hour for a $8 an hr job? Thats a quick way to go out of business and lose even more jobs.
3) vice versa, why would someone who is getting $45 an hour for a high stress job stay at a high stress job if someone was paying you the same for asking if you want fries with that?
The system is what it is because that is how reality works. I am living in the real world. Obama voters are the ones chugging kool aid and entering unicorn and rainbow land.

 

The first half of this video gives a little food for thought to your OP, that is at the core of the problem; http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/41894607#52697740

 

Slavery is forced labor. There is no forced labor in America. Paying a low minimu wage shows that the person is working at a low value job. No point paying a bag boy 50k a year if it means you will have to raise prices and the customers prefer lower prices to cart service. Get why it happens?

Another way to look at it is this. Have you ever paid more then asking price for something at the store? Why would you pay more then asking price for labor?

How much per hour is a jeweler a apprentice who has never made jewelry, will require hours of instruction, and will mess up repeat delay at first with expensive material?

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MSNBC will rot your brain. Be careful with that stuff.

 

The guy Bashir interviewed, does not work for MSNBC.

 

Bashir is probably worse then crack rock for the left. He is like you hannity except more so. I watch that kind of stuff too, but just learn when to say no and don't share it with others or push it on people.

 

Forgot the part time college kid group and most importantly the bartender an waiter group who take up the lion share of over 18 years olds. They get considered in the minimum wage stats but they don't actually make it.

 

If the system works like this, it ceases to be a system; http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/41894607#52697740 If this is how you think reality is supposed to work, it sounds as if you've been swimming in the Kool-aid. The Obama voters, once they've tasted a little of that same Kool-aid, they have a tendency to want to spit it back out into the pool you are swimming in, for fear it may pollute the mind into believing this is the system we "have" to live with. It's a good thing the Obama voters know some bad Kool-aid when they drink it.

 

What does Bashir have to do with the guy he interviewed? Nothing! The interviewed and Bashir are two different people. You are cowardly avoiding the subject by addressing Bashir.

 

I will remember that next time you pick on "FOX viewers". That said, I didn't come here to debate working for a voluntary wage and slavery to be honest. What serious person would think the two are similar?

 

The only problem I see for raising minimum wages is encouraging investments in automation to replace those jobs. For example, if a fast food company was having to pay 15 an hour per employee, the company might seek out means of automation to replace as many workers as possible.

 

I dont think how reality should be, I think how reality is. Reality should be that people werent dumb enough to vote for Obama....twice and yet here we are and the nation is in the toilet. And people still wont admit it even though all you need to do is look around in anytown USA.

 

People want to shop in their underwear, hence Amazon.com. People want cheap fast food, hence McDonald's. Seems there is an invisible hand. You just want to pretend it ain't there so you can remake reality in your image.

How about

High wages or affordable prices -- pick one.

 

What would be the motivation for buying them?

 

What if he chooses to live in a nice neighborhood?

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TWO WORDS: Cultural relativism.

 

How do you figure? Capitalists pay the lowest rate they can get away with.

 

If you insist on an example:

Sowell moronically used Rush Limbaugh's volcano theory to illustrate a point and in so doing, as if that wasn't pathetic enough, mixed-up global warming and the ozone layer.

NO FACT-BASED JOURNALIST WOULD EVER USE RUSH LIMBAUGH AS A SOURCE.

 

Your comment has so many logic errors that the Guinness Book of World Records might be interested.

 

Good clip!

I'm willing to bet that most of the conservatives here have been tricked by talk radio, Fox News, and even church leaders into supporting the interests of the rich, rather than their own interests.

Too bad for their families!

 

Now you know why Mayo is on my ignore list.

 

Good thing one's voluntary, huh? And no one actually has to work for minimum wage. Or perhaps you think we should reinstate slavery?

 

The properly-regulated market is a good thing.

When conservatives talk about "the market" they generally refer to the kind of badly-regulated market that led to the Great Depression.

 

Slaves had free health care and a non contributed retirement plan. So I am guessing this is an example of why Obama Care should be eliminated.

 

Ugh. What policies do you think lead to the Great Depression? Why didn't it happen earlier when there were less?

Don believe the brain washing you were given. The Great Depression came off the heels of the biggest government expansion in our history an was extended by it. The stock market speculation ocuures because the fed sold money to cheaply, then the crash occurred because the fed restricted the money supply too quickly. Ask Obama's fed chief. He said the same thing.

 

I like this argument of cultural relativism. Being able to keep up with the Jones' so to speak. Living like a King in one era, is living like a pauper in the next, and the only thing that has changed is perception. There has to be a point when living at the bottom is no longer living like a pauper. Poverty used to be related to starvation or death, now its not being able to afford a PS3 (or better yet buying a PS3 even though you can't afford it and then claiming your underpaid when rent comes due lol).

I often think under this counter-argument that if we ever reach a point where technology is so high that all one must do is push 1 button every morning to receive everything he/she needed for the day, BUT 50% of the people developed the technology so they could afford to have the other 50% push their button after they pushed their own, that we would be arguing about that 2nd pushed button. It's not fair that half the population doesn't have to push a button at all and we have to push 2 buttons. Cultural Relativism I guess.