Minimum-wage workers are cheaper than slaves

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  1. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you read my comments. I said that when I wanted to find a part-time job that allowed me to set my own flextime----fastfood came through. Because of the type of job it is, low pay for menial work---and because fastfood is not filled with career employees that are starting their 25th year there---It was the job that fulfilled my needs. JUst like it fits the needs of students, temporary workers and even teachers off on summer break and wanting temp work for extra cash.

    So....do you think I should be able to choose a job like that? Or do you think the government should control what jobs are out there for me to choose from?
     
  2. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    I do now. I've had similar problems with this kind of thing before. It's beginning to be common place. He's certainly not the only one.
     
  3. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    Too bad too that the church's get involved. You know there on the ropes when that sort of stuff goes on.
     
  4. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

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    Your minuscule version of reality is tainted with a mentality for hate. You live in this virtual child like world where everything that is wrong, is all a result of voting for one man. The person you so hate turned this country around of one that should have been another great depression while bleeding 800,000 jobs a month to 40 consecutive months of job growth. And that's coming on the heels of a republican lead house that has tried to obstruct his agenda from day one. He's done a lot in the face of record filibusters and obstruction; http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ma...tures/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Working at Macdonalds for minimum wage is better than slavery, and it was certainly not cheaper.

    There was no housing for slaves, and they did not get health care when they were sick. This is a phony comparison, minimum wage pays more than slavery.
     
  6. geofree

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    This is correct. The whole idea of capitalism was to get labor cheaper than was allowed under slavery. Below is a letter which documents the decline in the conditions and pay which capitalism brought to the newly freed slaves:

     
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    This is how it is done … by Mark Twain:

     
  8. malignant

    malignant New Member

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    Really? Did you ever hear of a slave who went to public school for free, aced all his classes, got a partial scholarship coupled with a government subsidized student loan to an ivy league school, graduated cum-laude there and got a job making 6 figures? No? Because he couldn't, under capitalism however he could.
     
  9. Alaska Slim

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    Limbaugh himself was talking about Ozone, but Sowell was still right.

    Volcanoes push ash and soot into the air, absorbing more heat than normal atmosphere, and keeping heat below it from escaping.
    Geologists certainly don't disagree. Volcanoes are a Global Warming contributor.

    And since you brought up the topic anyway, Thomas Sowell picked up on a trend in the IPCC data years before Al Gore famously tried to hide it in plain sight during "An Inconvenient Truth"

    Y'know, that graph showing heat and carbon level, going back millennia? When you put the two trends together, you see that increases in heat preceded increases in carbon, not the other way around.

    So in Global warming, he got one up over a Nobel Prize winner. Try again.

    Thomas Sowell isn't a Journalist. He's an Economist/Columnist, he doesn't report news, he comments on it.

    John Stossel however...
     
  10. JEFF9K

    JEFF9K New Member

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    That's a false choice.

    Our government has never had total control over what jobs are available, and neither has the market.

    When the government intervenes, especially a liberal government, like with the New Deal, the common people benefit greatly and the super-rich and greedy complain because they can't afford a fifth vacation house.
     
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    JEFF9K New Member

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    My comparison isn't based on the slavery in America's past.

    It's based on the present, and what things would be like if slavery were legal today.

    It has nothing to do with any particular ethnic group. It's about the morality of a low minimum wage.
     
  12. JEFF9K

    JEFF9K New Member

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    Sowell WASN'T right.

    The journal Science explains that chlorine from natural sources is soluble. The volcano theory traces back through cult leader Lyndon LaRouche and an eruption that occurred 700,000 years ago!

    To say that Sowell isn't a journalist is dishonest hair-splitting.

    He uses Rush Limbaugh as an expert. That's all the fact-based community needs to know!
     
  13. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Except that social security hurts working people. Not the rich, it mainly steals from the working poor who get the worst deal under it.

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    Do you buy anything over asking price?
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    He isn't a journalist. He is an economist with an opinion column. He is a commentator. Journalists report news, pundits like sowell comment an share opinions. He is not being dishonest you are just unaware of the definitions.
     
  15. Alaska Slim

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    I just gave you a source from a geologist saying he is right. Here's another. In short, eruptions produce truckloads of CO2.

    Sowell has owned you once more. Anything else you want to challenge him on?

    He's not, there's a definitive difference between a Columnist and a Journalist. Thomas Sowell does not report anything, he does not follow leads, he does not follow deadlines, and he doesn't work for any Newspaper, Magazine, or TV station.

    He writes columns that go into and are syndicated in editorial sections of media who agree to buy his work.
     
  16. CKW

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    I had to chuckle....a false choice? I dunno it was a real choice to me. You are simply saying "CKW...let the goverment.....let me...choose for you."

    Sorry guy, you don't make good choices I don't want anything to do with your decisions.
     
  17. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that why you were incapable of pointing even one out? Is that why you couldnt respond to three remedial valid on point questions? Liberals resport to namecalling when theyve lost the argument to distract from the fact they dont have an argument.
     
  18. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh so I live in a virtual child like world? Really. Is that why you had to say Obama turned the country around from what "should have been a depression" Thats asking to disprove a negative. Bush saved us from aliens too! Prove he didnt?
    Back to reality......lets bring you there. How about we start by you posting our current national debt, then we will take a stroll down obama memory lane. My child like virtual world has video does yours?
    Lets see if your fingers allow you to type in the 63% debt increase under Obama or if you will spew something OTHER than reality.
     
  19. bwk

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    This is the actual average spending by Obama versus Bush. Twice as low.http://www.businessinsider.com/government-spending-2011-7 And on top of that the stimulus was never something Obama wanted. It was a debt he incurred under necessity. Try to imagine being honest with yourself for a change. Much of Obama's debt was accrued coming on the heels of a possible depression/ $800 billion stimulus, and investing in getting rid of two wars he didn't start. But yet, inherited the debt that went with it. An awful lot of that is your $5 trillion right there. Now, I wonder why Obama spent all that money for those things? Makes you wonder who's debt it really is.
     
  20. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love it when libs do math, A 63% increase from what OWEBAMA himself called irresponsible and unpatriotic and you calculate it to be "twice as low". But dont take my word for it, here is your hero himself.
    Heres your daily dose of reality:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U
     

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