Miscellaneous Thoughts About God

Nothing EXPOSES a LACK of "smarts" than a puerile attempt at a Group Insult in VIOLATION of PF Rules.

The REALITY is that INTELLIGENCE, or a lack thereof, does NOT fall into POLITICAL categories.

But it DOES require intelligence to understand this concept which tells us something about those who post puerile rule violations.

Sad!

 

You are an excellent example of the monotheist fundamentalist, they not only believe there is only one god but that god is their god. Only they get to say who follows his teachings or can "get a vote". The truth is they try to OWN their god, its so funny to watch!

 

You are a prime example of an non-expert who thinks he knows more than he does. In the first place, who are you to say what I can know and what I can't know? Would it surprise you to know that I am an ordained minister, and you are not? I get this kind of BS from laypeople all the time who never realize they are doing the same thing they are accusing me of doing and they never get it.

 

I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know.

Socrates.

That you consider yourself to be an expert in a god that you cannot know exists just reinforces my belief that you wish to OWN YOUR GOD. You declare that YOU can discern that which only a god can decide and point to your fallacious badge of authority to show it, pathetic and amusing.

 

You're half right, you know nothing great and good, trolling doesnt count. And you've been trying to tell me for the better part of an hour that you do know something and it turns out you don't.

 

Getting ordination can be as simple as filling out an online form and paying a nominal fee; no degree required.
Congratulations, you're an ordained minister.

 

That may be what you did, but I had to go to school.

 

I went to Sunday School too so does that make me an Ordained Minister given that I won prizes for the most verses MEMORIZED?

 

Awwww, did I hurt your tender feelings? I've been putting up with wise assed comments from you for years. Suck it up buttercup.

 

IRONIC given your PROPENSITY for posting PUERILE ad homs in VIOLATION of PF Rules.

 

Did you just learn that word? Puerile? Well, it suits you.

Doubly ironic reading your uncalled for insults then whining when you get it back. Grow up.

 

Our Lady of the Mall?

 

Gotta love the interwebs where people can PRETEND to be whatever they like but the CONTENT of their posts ALWAYS exposes them as LACKING the requisite KNOWLEDGE that they should have with their alleged "qualifications".

 

RE: Miscellaneous Thoughts About God
SUBTOPIC: No Thought About a Deity is Miscellaneous
⁜→ it's just me, et al,

BLUF: I have to agree with our friend "it's just me." Even the idea of a "Christian Atheist" sounds much like a "Dissociative Identity Disorder" (DID).

(COMMENT)

This appears to be a case in which the victim (the atheist) is possessed by an otherworldly evangelist (the Christian). The atheist may need a ritual according to the believers in The Reason (The Treatment Planner).



Most Respectfully,
R

 

Tell me, what mainstream Church can you buy an ordination for? Answer: none. You can't send away for one, it's just another one of those myths that internet trolls pull out of their asses.

 

I'll bet you can't explain what you mean by that because you don't know yourself. But you'll try to convince us thaat you do. What knowledge? Do you even know? I dont think you know, so far all you have said is to agree with some half assed claim about "Christian atheists".

 

There was once a time when you had to be careful with atheists, they knew the subject matter and could get you into a trap. Now they just say the dumbest things they can think of to insult you and it doesnt have to make sense, as far as they are concerned.

 

As everyone can see, I made no knowledge claim you did,

I would of thought that as an ordained minister you would defer to your god, but instead you double down on your assertion, use a fallacious argument from authority and throw in a few insults for good measure. I do wonder whether this is the problem with religion, a pompous power mad individual starts dictating to others what their relationship with a god should be. He uses knowledge he cannot possibly have and invokes an authority which no god has given him to tell others what to do. Soon they are so used to their own self importance they forget that they are just a human but see themselves as a representative for a god who never asked them to be. Pretty soon you have a group and all of a sudden you have heresy against the church not the god.

So lets remember how logic works, you made the claim to know who was and was not a christian, the burden of proof lies with you. Show evidence of your claim or admit like me that you do not know who a god would decide is a christian or not. Show me where in the bible it says you have to believe in the trinity to be a Christian, educate me.

 

Again let me stress that I do not claim to be a Christian Atheist, I have just pointed out that they do exist, people who identify as Christians and identify as atheist.

Christian atheism is a form of Christianity that rejects theistic claims of Christianity, but draws its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and/or teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources.

Christian atheism takes many forms:

• Some include an ethics system.
• Some are types of cultural Christianity.
• Some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer).
• Others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton).

Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism.

Although Jesus is still a central feature of Christian atheism, Hamilton said that to the Christian atheist, Jesus as a historical or supernatural figure is not the foundation of faith; instead, Jesus is a "place to be, a standpoint".[5] Christian atheists look to Jesus as an example of what a Christian should be, but they do not see him as God, nor as the Son of God; merely as an influential rabbi.

Hamilton wrote that following Jesus means being "alongside the neighbor, being for him"[5] and that to follow Jesus means to be human, to help other humans, and to further humankind.

Other Christian atheists such as Thomas Altizer preserve the divinity of Jesus, arguing that through him God negates God's transcendence of being.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris...heism is a form,Some include an ethics system.

It is interesting to note that many of these Christian Atheists are far more educated in theology than an ordained minister but in my opinion that does not mean they can decide who is and is not a Christian. Why an ordained minister finds it insulting that people follow the teachings of Jesus without believing in god is odd to me. Again surely it is up to any god that exists to decide?

Don't shoot the messenger for pointing out facts that you find unpalatable.

 

RE: Miscellaneous Thoughts About God
SUBTOPIC: No Thought About a Deity is Miscellaneous
⁜→ it's just me, et al,

BLUF: Again, you have more than a valid point. My personal experience has shown, that you're on the money.

(COMMENT)

I am generally up to a challenge. Although I generally hold the position of "atheist," I'm really a closet agnostic (being a reformed Catholic Alterboy). These days, I have to do a lot of research, in some questions, before I can make an intelligent comment. I would rather it be a matter of logic and reason, as opposed to a faith-based objective analysis. But then I fall into a trap. When the opposing view is based on solely, no matter what argument is presented, I cannot win. When up against a hardcore believer in one of the Abrahamic Religions, deductive reasoning, critical thinking, and logic do not stand a chance of winning.

Just My Two Cents,

Most Respectfully,
R

 

I have an analogy that might help you. Creation has made it evident to all that God exists. Evidence is everywhere but many cannot see it.

I own two great dogs. I think they are very smart....at least in the dog world. They, like us, live in a three dimensional world. At night I often watch TV and they are right there beside me. Morgan hear's a dog barking on the TV and it will alert him only until it stops. After that, he is indifferent. Mosby, on the other hand, doesn't even lift his head. You see, Morgan doesn't deny the 2 dimensions of T.V. exists.....he just doesn't care. Mosby thinks two dimensions are just a "fairy tale". This is the exact analogy I would apply to both agnostics and atheists.

We cannot fully know God, but many of us believe He made an effort to show us His Nature in our three dimensional world. In fact, we believe He became like us (three dimensional beings) so we could learn the nature of His Love. Someday everyone of us will enter into God's dimension and we will account for our three dimensional life.
Living in God's dimension is going to be glorious for many. I just wish Mosby and Morgan could enjoy reruns of "Office" with me.

 

Christian Atheism is a sad fact but I do understand. I am more taken with what C.S. Lewis said and I'll paraphrase...." Jesus is not a name to be conformed to fit someones standards. He never minced words. "He is either a lunatic, who hallucinated as to his being, he is a liar who was bent on deceiving the masses for centuries..... or He is Lord." No one can honestly, introspectively study the Gospel of John and not come away with the notion He is Lord!

 

Which version of the countless Gods do you know exist? Please be specific as they all have their own unique names. God is just a title, like priest or cook or soldier.

 

Polly want a communion cracker?

 

Its interesting how two people can look at the same thing and come to completely different conclusions. I look at creation, at the billions of galaxies, trillions of stars all rushing away from each other at incredible speed towards a endless heat death in billions of years time. To me the concept of the Christian God who created all that just for us is absurd.

I do not discount the idea that a god who created everything might exist, but if so it would be a something completely beyond our comprehension.