>>>MOD ALERT<<<Pinellas deputy fired for excessive force in traffic stop

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  1. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we need fewer "cops", and more peace-keeping law enforcement agencies.

    [video=youtube;onWC8nNpIco]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWC8nNpIco[/video]
    Replacing state law enforcement completely with competing accountable private security agencies would be a huge step forward.
     
  2. peoshi

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    So a white person has to be LE to defend himself against a "No Limit (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" attacking him,sbb?

    The guy was fired, the woman was not injured,she has hired an attorney, and charges against her were dropped, what exactly are you wanting here?

    Exactly...and yet you don't see that as racism, it's only racism on my part if your mentality tells what "folks like me" think, BTW...can you point out where I have defended this cop,sbb?
     
  3. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    I thought he was Hispanic, now he is white again. When you go (*)(*)(*)(*)ing with someone how are you defending yourself.

    What would have happened to the woman if the lie was not uncovered, if the store had no surveillance she would be sitting in jail for a crime she didn't commit. Just firing him is not just enough for the simple fact he could have ruined this young woman's life, but I know that doesn't matter to you because she is just another ni................nevermind.
     
  4. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're correct. While Superbadbrutha's is pointing out supposed abuse, there are four Law Enforcement officers shot and one dead.

    Breaking: Ft. Myers, St. Louis, Cops Shot. Florida Shooting ...

    http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/88224/Breaking-Ft-Myers-St-Louis-Cops-Shot-Florida-Shooting
    SANIBEL - Sanibel Police say an officer was shot and injured during a routine traffic stop around 8 p.m. Sunday. The suspect fled the scene.
     
  5. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Right, so what is messing up the life of one more black woman. Funny how folks like you disappear or are never heard from when those responsible for shooting LEOs are white. Why is that?
     
  6. Darkbane

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    so another thread where you got what you wanted and you still find a way to complain about it... amazing... even when you get what you want, you're not satisfied... just out of curiosity since you say this happens more than every now and then, please define what percentage of incidents you think are lawful and unlawful, so we can continue this discussion with stats and reports rather than subjective rhetoric the sky is falling...

    P.S. let me guess, you're going to post about another incident soon, where the cop was held accountable, and you're still going to be upset?
     
  7. Maximatic

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    And how many people have been killed or beaten by cops today?

    For that matter, how many loggers, fishers, pilots, and roofers died today? How many of any of the other 14 professions that are more dangerous than being a cop?
     
  8. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

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    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/09/william-norman-grigg/call-the-anti-police/
     
  9. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Get back to me when you actually have something to talk about and not just some bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  10. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe if she hadn't be breaking the law by driving with a suspended license and acting like she did before he took her down. The 'Lady' in question would sipping cool drink this evening.
     
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    The arrest was totally uncalled for. Yes, she was acting pissy, but there is no law against that. Did the cop get charged with assault for tackling her with no reason, or is that part of the illegal arrest?

    He'll never work in law enforcement again and I bet he'll never qualify for a CHL.
     
  12. superbadbrutha

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    If a frog had a glass ass it would break every time he jumps.
     
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    so you're refusing to answer a simple question... lets try again so you can't keep spewing rhetoric that can't be challenge... please define, your definition of, every now and then... so we can begin to cite statistics and information rather than spewing garbage just to be angry... because like I already said, you got what you wanted, an officer held accountable, and you're still angry... define the phrase, so we can have a discussion within your parameters, with actual facts, rather than subjective hyperbole that is wasting space on this website...

    P.S. we can begin to cite things like how many contacts happen every day with officers, you know, real numbers, not made up hysteria like you pitch... but first I need you to define what time period "every now and then" is so we can have a true and honest discussion instead of rhetoric...
     
  14. peoshi

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    This is exactly what I'm talking about,genius...it has been settled in a court of law and investigated by the DOJ with a black AG and you still refuse to accept it!

    BTW...he's a "white hispanic" according to the liberal media, but you knew that. :roll:


    So what would you suggest...lynching him?

    And what if you weren't black? Be honest...would you have even started this thread if she was white?

    You and I both know you would not touch it if you could not play the "race card"!

    Your problem is you take any criticism or disagreement from a white person as racism,you've wore it out, it's not racism...it's ignorance on your part!

    Do you think blacks are the only people this sh*t happens to?:roll:

    Also...I'm still waiting for you to point out where I have defended the cop in your OP?
     
  15. superbadbrutha

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    So now he is a white Hispanic. Roy Bryant and JW Milam were found not guilty and walked out of a court of law and told exactly how they committed murder. I have also heard you cry about OJ Simpson being acquitted but I know that was different wasn't it.

    Charging him like anyone else would be.

    Why did I start this thread?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...leave-after-punching-woman-during-arrest.html

    Did that answer your question.

    Weak ass cop-out.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...leave-after-punching-woman-during-arrest.html

    That's all you do.
     
  16. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet, these four LEOs are expected to put their lives on the line daily. How many of those fourteen professions other than Police, Firemen and EMT's ran into WTC 1 & 2 on 9/11/01 and how many died doing their job on that fateful day?.


    • 343 firefighters (including a chaplain and two paramedics) of the New York City Fire Department (FDNY);
    • 37 police officers of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department (PAPD);
    • 23 police officers of the New York City Police Department (NYPD); and
    • 8 emergency medical technicians and paramedics from private emergency medical services
     
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    I would say that this isn’t excessive force, but defiantly not needed force. It would help if you have audio because you could tell what is being said. Should he have been fired? I don’t know the circumstances and unlike everyone else, I’m not going to play armchair lawyer here. But based off that video as it stands, yea I would have fired him. IMO there so was reason that I could see for the cop to go from calm to throwing an beat down. There are other “tools” they could such as use as voice commands.
     
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    Where did I say she did, try again and read more slowly this time.

    He ordered her out of the vehicle so the stop could proceed. She grabbed her license out of his hand and turned to walk away disobeying his lawful order.

    What should have happened next?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Like what? How about we need fewer criminals and people who do not follow the lawful orders of a police officer while they are being issued a citation or being arrested. Maybe we need some serious citizen reform.
     
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    She was making hostile actions directly in front of the officer after swiftly getting out of her vehicle.

    The takedown was justified, he shouldn't have lied about her assaulting him but I understand why he did it.

    The nation is anti-cop right now and when these officers aren't fearing for their lives they're fearing for their jobs.
     
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    Correct...only white folks can be racist...except if you are a conservative then no matter your skin color you are a racist by default.
     
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    Well she could because she was driving with a suspended license and I would not doubt that he ran it and found out it was not the first time so she was being placed under arrest.

    Still waiting, what should he have done when she tried to leave as he was placing her under arrest?
     
  22. superbadbrutha

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    She was already stopped. How do you know he ordered her out of her vehicle?

    Obviously not what happened.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    He was placing her under arrest, she was under detention.

    What should he have done when she attempted to leave the scene of the arrest that was occurring. Be specific this time.
     
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    He should have arrested her if that is what he was actually doing, do you really think he needed to handle her in that manner?

    So I guess you don't have a problem with him lying on his report.
     
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    Totally irrelevant.

    He made up a story how it went down, he got busted lying and being violent for no reason.
    But good for sticking up for a known lying violent thug with a badge
     

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