>>MOD WARNING<<Germany threatens retaliation if U.S. sanctions harm its firms

The decision wasn't about Russia and US sanctions. It was about them needing fewer of the boeings and more of the smaller A350's. Lufthansa is trying to cut their fleet costs. Boeing, in the other hand, has seen a surge in Dreamliner orders.

 

Russia still makes airliners I take it?

There are three players in the global market?

 

Germany is run by hardcore socialists of united CDU-CSU-SPD-FDP-Lefts-Greens without any opposition.Anything is prohibited if it is not allowed.The future of this country is very sad:a Caliphate in twenty years.
The life of a white christian woman is nothing in comparison with 'human rights' of a 'refuge'

 

Actually, there is a high probability that USSR would've never started european invasion after WWII.

Follow me on this: if we take NATO out of picture, but leave all other details there, Stalin still dies in 1953 from a cerebral bleed. Khruschev, after him, does not continues his politics. Quite the opposite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khrushchev_Thaw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Stalinization

Sure, Khruschev was the most vigorous zealot of atheism in soviet history, even said to have promissed to "show last cleric on TV by end of 60th", but prosecution was mainly administrative. He did not slaughtered priests, he was destroying church as an institution.
Aside from that - warmer relations with foreign countries, liberalization of state, and... As result - uprising in Hungary as first call, and in the end - the Prazske Jaro. The Central Commitee reacted on both events with force. Difference is - uprising in Hungary was a fight for liberty of hungarians, while what happened in Czechoslovakia was liberalisation of soviet system. Thing, that begun with Khruschev. Thing, that Brejnev tried to turn back - yet naturally it appeared again when Gorbachev became head of state.



So actually, speaking from historic perspective, without NATO it may very well be so, that Soviet Union would have never expanded further, too tied in it's inner conflicts and struggle between socialistic, liberal beginnings and highly centralised totalitarist system that Stalin built. Central Commitee of the communist party wanted to remain in power, heads of soviet republics more often than not started acting on their own, for sake of their own people. In the end heads of republics got opportunity to topple the party, when happened the August Coup of 1991, and suddenly here we are: with Union dissoluted.

Sure, Stalin could've expanded Union - he was the type of man who could do such thing. But he lived for only eight years after the war, and this war demonstrated well that any sort of major agressor would have combined opposition to them - USA, USSR, China, Britain and France were not allies before the war, except for France and Britain they pretty much viewed each other as potential threats. But once war big enough started:


Same would've happened even without NATO if Stalin would've started a new war, and at very least that would've pushed him into taking a "breather" - the european part of country was in ruins, same with acquired european republics. Infrastructure and industry were devastated, army exhausted, people tired of war - Union needed time to recover, at very least. More than a few years, way more. And then.. 1953, 5 of March, ~10 PM, cerebral bleeding and permanent loss of life signs.


Now, sure nobody knew he would die in age of 73, literally few people even knew he suffered several cerebral infarctions - that also theoretically could have caused a mental disorder - so world was preparing for war... That never happened.

Sixsty eight years have passed. Union is in the past, world have notably changed, and NATO have not participated in even a single defensive war since it's creation. It has military bases all over the world, and serves as cause to pull countries in wars they have nothing to do with. Stalin is dead, but map still has a constantly expanding military force. And it as much of a danger to world peace, as ever.

 

Well, government of Ukraine has ZERO problems forgetting about Rusyns, just as it was forgetting about Crimean Tatars up to day of the referendum in 2014.

Or, precisely, A FOUR DAYS AFTER that day.
http://zakon1.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1140-vii
20 березня 2014 року - aka 20 of March, 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014
March 16, 2014

...ahem. Somebody is used as a political whore. For some reason government of Ukraine, that SO PASSIONATELY LOVES Crimean Tatars today have not bothered to recognise them as core nationality of Crimean peninsula, as well as recognise their self-governing institution.


Same with Rusyns, Poles, Hungarians and Moldavans at least. Oh, AND RUSSIANS. Ukraine, while houses variety of nationalities and cultures, is a - thanks to reigid government - unitary state. There been propositions of reforms, of turning country in a federation and recognising polish, hungarian, tatarian and other local languages - instead they refused reforms, LESSENED autonomy in regions, and started banning russian.

That is if anybody here will bother reading me, aside from people who support Russia there by default. I am not saying we are angels - I am saying government of Ukraine is not less, or even more full of shιt.

 

Well Germany wants build up a european army. We already integrate the armies of smaller countries like netherlands and czech into our command.

 

Nobody can accuse you of hysteria, Jake.

 

China did not support sanctions, unlike Germany.
The Central Bank of Russia opened a branch in China so that the Russian economy could borrow in the Chinese market. There are many examples of cooperation with China. Unlike China, the EU is an unreliable partner.
Can you explain why the US wants to deploy nuclear hypersonic missiles in Poland?
The politicians of the EU and the USA constantly threaten Russia and take hostile actions. Western media are fomenting Russophobia. And most importantly, Russia allowed the German people to unite peacefully, but today the German people are helping Ukrainian fascists to kill Russians for what they want to reunite with Russia.

 

No your not.

 

He's not a muslim, since he is a drug user. Get real. lol

 

The gas deals and so on are estimated to be quite favorable for China and far less for Russia. They seem to rip you off because you needed these deals.

Maybe there is a need for an anti missile system because of the stationed missiles in Königsberg. Short reaching missiles with a nuclear option.

Russia plays the same game against the west.

Russia guaranteed the borders of the Ukraine in two treaties and ignored that. When there would have been a poll before soldiers took control of Crimea we wouldn't have to discuss this matter now. Maybe the population of Crimea would have decided to become Russian and it would have been legitimate to reunite.

 

Do we? When NATO continued expanding in 90th we were doing that?

Government of Russian Federation made that agreement with government of Ukraine, last president of which was Victor Yanukovich.

The current government is formed by coup, that instigated civil conflict, that turned into a civil war after head of provisional government Turchinov SENT TROOPS in east of country, to subjugate peaceful protests and regional referendums, similar to that of Crimea. So excuse me, for being frank, my government signed no treaties with this bunch of incompetent motherfuсkers that currently resign in Kiev. Keep that in mind, please. If USA supports them as "legit" government, that does not makes them legit. Some people voted for them - sove decided to vote out, and got guns pointed at them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_revolution

http://osp-ua.info/lastnews/36368.html

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Референдуми_на_Донеччині_та_Луганщині_2014#.C2.AB.D0.A0.D0.B5.D1.84.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.B4.D1.83.D0.BC.C2.BB_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D0.94.D0.BE.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.87.D1.87.D0.B8.D0.BD.D1.96
These people with pieces of paper in hands they proclaimed "terrorists".

And I frankly hope that UKRAINIAN sources can be considered reliable there, and not dismissed as state propaganda of my country?

 

The West often says that cooperation with China is harmful to Russia. That gas deals are not profitable and other blah blah blah.

If Russia wanted to destroy Germany, then it would have done it in a few hours. Several thousand rockets and Germany will turn into ashes. Russia can do this but does not.

Crimea was part of the USSR as an autonomous republic. Autonomous Republic of Crimea. In 1991, 1993 and 1994, the Republic of Crimea held referenda. The people of the Crimea elected the president and parliament. In 1994, Ukraine introduced troops to the Crimea. Ukraina surrounded the parliament and the presidential residence. The West approved the actions of Ukraine. I understood one thing. The West will do any meanness and crime to harm Russia. Therefore do not say bullshit about the agreements.

 

Ahem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_referendum,_1994
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Crimea#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuriy_Meshkov

Do not see exactly mentions of any military force used in Crimea in 1994.

 

Of course we do

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/22/germany-is-quietly-building-a-european-army-under-its-command/

 

Germans have to pay extra. They are irregular customers. Can't keep their politics out of business deals.

 

I'm pretty sure that Crimea wants to be with Russia and vice versa. And they are. So that's that really.
How many times do we all have to go to war in Crimea?

And what are you trying to win? A country that will hate you?
You don't want it. They don't want you. Where is the victim in this?

There is none. So leave it be, hero.

 

What? Irreglar customers? Germany is Russias main customer in gas.

The chinese deals are disatrous for russia, since China pays less than Russia pays for pumping it out of the earth.

 

It reads:
Romania’s entire military won’t join the Bundeswehr, nor will the Czech armed forces become a mere German subdivision.

So thats a no

 

Seems an unlikely story.

 

I think you have problems with the english language. I said we integrate armies of smaller nations under our command. This indicated a process which is going on. So thats a yes.

 

In fairness my money is on the Czechs in any celebrity deathmatch between those three.

Romania's military seems to getting on with the Americans I'm thinking. I think they are getting friction there from the intelligence services still who might be more Russian orientated.

 

Negative.
It's your opinion that this is a process which is going on.
The article you posted, disagrees with your opinion.
I quoted the part of it even.

All you got is wishful thinking.

 

Yes, most interesting indeed. I say good for the Germans. Are they beginning to realize that the Emperor wears no clothes, that he is naked?

 

Its not my opinion. Its what my chancellor says. That she wants a EU army and that she takes the necessary steps to achieve that.