Moderate Democrats warn Pelosi of impeachment obsession

Well, on that we can agree.. I've seen nothing new that would indicate that's in order...

The ones in potential trouble with this latest news should be whoever ordered that ridiculous FBI mini-me investigation last year... they HAD to know that would come back and bite them, but the goal was achieved...

 

Perhaps we don't think that much different. My first choice was Hickenlooper, but he withdrew. Klobuchar is also a favorite of mine. Now I have always liked Joe Biden, both as a senator and as VP. If this was four years ago, I'd be out pounding the pavement for him. Today, I worry a bit about him going senile or showing signs of it. A Biden/Klobuchar ticket would eliminate all fears.

I don't think it is fear of having a female president, I think it is a matter of who that female president is. I don't think most want a female candidate who feels she is entitled to become president only because she is a female. Comes across as aloof and elitist. Yet won the popular vote against a candidate that almost any other Democrat would have swamped by 10 points or more. I'd be all for Klobuchar and Gabbard, against Warren and Harris on political grounds. Not gender. Same as I could support Biden, Hickenlooper and not Sanders or O'Rourke. My vote is up for grabs. I know I won't be voting for Trump, but I don't know if my vote will go to the Democratic candidate or a third party candidate as my vote did back in 2016. A vote against both major party candidates.

We do have a problem in the senate. Reid tabled over 300 passed Republican House bills. Now McConnell is doing the same for the Democratic House. I've always been of the opinion that all house bills should be voted on.

 

That makes 2 of us... If (as it appears) Reid did the same, I disagree with that...

The one thing I can find no proof of is Reid saying he won't move forward with things until (and unless) he knows where the president stands... That may have been part of his reasoning, but I cannot find public evidence of that....

 

Pelosi is the cat herder. Would have been easier if she hadn't tied that can to their tails earlier.

 

Yet Democrats attack the 2nd Amendment.

So... uphold the constitution or...?

 

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Show me one D attacking the 2nd amendment, and I'll denounce them myself..

 

Reid probably didn't. He knew where Obama stood on most issues. He tabled legislation to avoid debate on them, to save Obama from having to veto some, to having some passed. I suppose there were many more reasons.

With Trump, hardly no one knew where he stood. That might have been one reason he won. As a friend of mine put it, "We elected the devil we didn't know, Trump was a businessman, no political background. No one knew how he would govern. We elected the devil we didn't know over the devil we did. Everyone knew exactly how Hillary Clinton would govern. She was well known, perhaps too well known."

This makes me think that perhaps a fresh young face would better suit the Democrats. The fresh young face's won in 1976 Jimmy Carter, 1992 Bill Clinton and 2008 Obama. Old political hacks that lost, Hillary Clinton NY, Kerry Mass, Dukakis Mass. Mondale and Dole were old political establishment types also. Reagan was old, but a fresh face to the Washington scene. Gore had been around forever as a senator and VP, G.W. Bush was fresh and young. His daddy rode Reagan's coat tails.

Just thinking.

 

Fair points all... heavens knows between Joe, Bernie, and Lizzy, those are not the freshest faces in the Face Store...

We haven't talked about Mayor Pete... I've watched exactly zero seconds of D debate, but I've seen him on TV and he comes across as a very fresh face.... Frankly, a little too fresh, as I'd like him to have national experience... 1 term in Congress would be enough.... But I doubt we haven't heard the last of Mayor Pete...

Still think Amy would qualify as a Fresh Face... What else did Carter, Clinton, and Obama have in common?? Not from either coast (Georgia only technically being on the East Coast)... I think that also plays well sometimes.....

Oh well, I'd better learn to forget about Senator Amy...

 

Where do you get this stuff from?

 

if any President deserved to be impeached... it's Trump

but dems want him impeached in the house and the repubs to defend him so he runs in 2020 and as easy win for them

and Trump is pretty much a lame duck, Pence would be much worse, even most Republicans prefer Trump to Pence, Pence is too much a religious nut

 

Um... Beto?

 

Have you not read the 50 threads on dems trying to take assault rifles? That is a pretty clear attack on the 2nd amendment.

 

I've only donated to a political campaign one time in my life and that was $5 many years ago but after watching almost 2 hours of this impeachment inquiry I'm seriously considered donating to Corey lewandowski's campaign.

Hes awesome

 

Feinstein & Harris as well.

 

I'd call those three which own from flyover country. Those who lost from the northeast. I haven't paid much attention if any to Mayor Pete. I also agree Amy would qualify as a fresh face with the advantage of being from flyover country. The last Democrat to win the presidency from the Northeast was JFK in 1960. A time when the northeast was Rockefeller Republican country.

I'm more fond of ex-governors and senators for the presidency than congress critters. I do think those from flyover country tend to look a lot harder at candidates from the northeast than from other parts of the country. Quite a lot of folks have moved out of the northeast over the years because they didn't like the politics there. Businesses also. Georgia benefited quite well from businesses moving out of the northeast.

 

Uh... no, it's not, since they are talking about buyback programs and assault rifles are not specifically mentioned in the 2A....

Beto went a bit too far, but since he's not president, don't worry about it...

Explain how not having assault rifles infringes on your right to bear arms... or don't... I honestly don't really care

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

 

No it's not. The right wing in this country has to push that to win the election. That says a lot about their own platform. Bernie is unelectable even in the primary for that very reason. The dems wont put him up against Trump because the dem party isn't a socialist party.

The republican party has moved so far to the right that socialism is now the center. Bernie wont come out of the primaries because even the dems dont agree with his policies. Bernie couldn't beat Hillary, and he wont come out of this primary season either. The problem the dems have today is that when Bernie doesn't get the nod, the Bernie Bros would rather burn the democratic party to the ground then vote for another dem.

And the other problem the dems have today is that the right wing in this country refuses to hold Trump accountable to anything. He could kill a baby on camera in the middle of 5th ave, and the right wing in this country would say "the baby started it, and he was asking for it". Thats an impossible standard to beat.

 

No they don't. Thats a made up talking point to rile up the base

 

Your party respects the 2A about like pigeons respect statues.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/65221-dems-assault-on-the-second-amendment

 

Again, I'm not a party member...

But your failure to understand relatively simple concepts when it comes to what the 2A says and doesn't say is not my problem...

 

good, because I honestly am not giving up my assault rifle just because washington morons want to violate the constitution.

 

It doesn't, but if that helps you sleep at night, no worries here..

Enjoy your 'God given' right to have your unnecessary weapons....

 

No need to worry about being reelected. All the homeless will have someone vote for them. Plus, Mexico will be choosing, too. So, I think it's just paranoia.

Edit: Forgot the old folks homes with everyone having dementia. Their votes will count for the dems, too.

Sorry, can't think of everything.

 

Why don't you elaborate. We have a formal impeachment with Nixon, there is none here.

 

That’s not true, Dems really did shift very far left.
Do you remember Hillary being ridiculed by radical left for saying “all lives matter” instead of “black lives matter”. She had to apologize for that. And that’s what pissed off my dad who voted trump. I didn’t think much of it and voted Hillary. Now, 3 years later, all Dem candidates push for reparations.
Obama was deporting illegals pretty well, but now, 3 years later, we have Dems calling for abolishing of ICE and stopping deportations.

I don’t know how you can’t see it, but Dems shifted waaaaay too much to the left. This never ending hysteria about trump just shows that the people who were elected into congress from dem party just can’t do day to day business.

Sorry, but you guys effing lost it. And I’m not going to vote Democrat any time soon.