More California Cities Seek to Defy ‘Sanctuary State’ as Revolt Spreads

Give it a rest rahl. Time to move on.

 

Stop responding then.

 

The law is illegal, so there's no problem.

States cannot interfere with the execution of federal laws.

Like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target.

No one is asking States to enforce federal law. The issue is the attempts by States to subvert, hinder and interfere with the execution of federal laws by federal offices and agencies.

 

Have you read the California laws?
Not helping and interfering are two different things.

 

No one has addressed the primary question: Can a State grant State citizenship to illegal aliens? Obviously such people wouldn't be American citizens so they wouldn't be able to get a US passport and do other federal things but they can and do State things already, such as owning property, attending public schools, getting a State driver's license, and even voting in local elections. So theoretically a State such as California could grant State citizenship to all illegal aliens if it wanted to. The people just wouldn't be American citizens.

 

Now is the time for Sessions to step in and file charges against the Oakland Mayor, their side is crumbling. Perp walking her in front of the camera's would send a strong message.

 

Which nobody is doing. States are simply not permitting their resources and funds to be used to enforce federal law.

 

Tipping off illegal aliens to raids, allowing illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses and bank accounts, attempting to prevent employers from cooperating with ICE, aiding and abetting illegal aliens are examples of interfering with federal offices and agencies in the execution of their duties under the law.

 

Barring employers from cooperating with ICE is interference.

 

That one may need to be decided in court. But I'm sure you would agree that if the feds want to search your house, they need a warrant. The law would force the warrant. I don't have to like it, but I can respect it.

 

nope. The only thing out of that list that is illegal is preventing employers from cooperating with ICE.

 

He thinks he needs more democrat votes - in California of all places.

 

Aiding and abetting persons in furtherance of a crime is illegal. That includes tipping off illegal aliens about ICE raids and providing driver's licenses and bank accounts to illegal aliens.

 

Oh I don't think so.
http://www.ilgrp.com/can-i-open-up-a-bank-account/
https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

Much of it has to do with the American left's Virtue Signaling and Identity/Victim-Oppressor politics.

By conspicuously championing the plight of poor, put-upon, angelic illegals, they paint themselves as wonderful people who are simply morally superior to their 'mean, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, nativist, white nationalist' political opponents...who nobody should ever vote for lest they be associated with 'mean, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, nativist, white nationalists' (or 'deplorables', for short).

The best part is the hermetically sealed sanctimonious bubbles they navigate do not permit them to accurately assess how the rest of the country feels about illegal immigration, aiding and abetting illegal immigration, harboring illegal immigrants, financially supporting illegal immigrants, jobs going to illegal immigrants, illegal immigrants voting, Jackpot Babies, etc.

 

I'm sure you would find that California would gladly hold illegals past their release date if the Feds would simply pay for it. I'm pretty sure a couple of billion would cover the additional jails and costs.
Would you sign off on that?
Then please allow yourself to think thru what the Feds would do with them once they were turned over for a hearing and eventual removal. Not quite as easy as it sounds.

 

I don't expect CA to do crap. What I do expect in the near future is for CA to have federal funding cut off for thumbing their noses at federal immigration laws. It's in the works as we speak.

 

Not that complicated. California simply wants more democrat voters as though they need them. They probably want more seats in the house as well. In my experience politicians aren't about people. They are about power and control.

 

Nonsense. You are asking me to believe that California politicians care about people to an extent simply not seen in the political world. People are the talking point. Power and control are the goal.

 

Yes, I am telling you to believe, because they did hold them in the good ol' days.
But it really doesn't matter because ICE just turns them loose again anyway. You know that right?
https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/01/...rnment-over-costs-tied-to-illegal-aliens.html

 

No, I don't know that and neither do you.

 

The question no one has ever answered is can an illegal alien become a legitimate State citizen? Of course they are not American citizens but they are individual State citizens.

 

Oh, but I do.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/15/catch-and-release-illegal-immigrant-restarted-texa/

But months or even years could pass before the full hearing takes place. According to the Executive Office for Immigration Review, more than 534,000 cases, including deportations, asylum applications and bond reviews, are currently pending on immigration court dockets nationwide.
https://www.voanews.com/a/how-immigrants-are-detained-deported/3750166.html

 

There is no such thing as state citizenship. They could only be considered state residents.