More defections out of Republican Party

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  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    It is really not difficult at all. There is a strong and healthy debate between the Trumpers and Never Trumpers. McCain/Flake are neocon globalists. The Trumpers are populists.

    The Democrats are split between neocon globalists and the certifiably insane.
     
  2. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean "nationalist". Trump was never a principled Republican and has no loyalty to the GOP except to exploit ignorance.
     
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    Of course not, that is why the Republican establishment hates him as much as the Democratic establishment. They both have the same masters: the global capitalists.

    You get rid of Trump then you are going to have to deal with the disenfranchised and disillusioned "yellow vests" when the movement hops the Atlantic.
     
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    Nothing to do with party really. Just a politician wanting to stay in office, and having no foundation of belief keeping him in one party of the other.

    Besides, the most worthless job in California, or at least the most pointless, would be as a Republican in the Socialist Progressive State Legislature.

    https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/newsletters/politics-report/politics-report-why-maienschein-flipped/

    Why anyone would want to be part of the government structure responsible for California's destruction is beyond me.
     
  5. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans generally don't demonstrate in the streets. Your global-phobia is passe. And income inequality is getting more government attention [ie. housing assistance legislation].
     
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    This is gonna end up as the end of the Republican Party. All of the moderates will switch parties and the GOP will end up with nothing but neocons and alt righters, a party of extremists, with no moderate voice. Though, they've been like that for years. Most of the "moderates" in the GOP have been complete cowards for years, choosing to go along with the far right and refuses to right for their own ideals.
     
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  7. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maienschein was a San Diego Republican. Like Mayor Faulconer, he sees the GOP going so far off the rails that his ability to legislate was limited. As the article points out Maienschein's only committee chairmanship was appointed by a Democrat. Republicans in California have no influence if they don't strongly condemn Trump.
     
  8. Pycckia

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    Global phobia is passe? What is that supposed to mean? In any case the worthies at Davos are very concerned.

    https://www.fin24.com/Opinion/terry-bell-davos-and-the-spectre-of-populism-20190124

    The reaction is just beginning and won't be stopped by you adopting a cavalier attitude.
     
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    The more rinos out the better. They will only serve to back stab us when we need them most. Nice to see them jumping into the party they actually belong in.
     
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    So you agree with me. My problem is the concept of importing illegal aliens in order to get the votes. Everyone has to pay for the illegals, not just democrats.
     
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    But it is certainly possible to have a country which prioritizes the welfare of the native born over that of multinational corporations.
     
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    The one thing I'd nitpick here is that the Trumpublicans can't stand the neocons.
     
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    Course they can. They voted for them for years. Both Bushes, Reagon
     
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    Conservatives who surrendered to the RINOs of Trumpery will not want to have to run, except in some radical, diehard districts, with a pantload of Trump.

    As his value continues to plummet, you'll see the GOP fighting to recover.
     
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  16. carlosofcali

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    Of course they can. The question is the long term picture--will they over time?
     
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    More defections out of Republican Party.

    We all know already that the cretins are more interested in their re-elections than their beliefs. I reminds me of the Iraqi soldiers who went with whomever they thought would win. It turns the stomach.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So any Republican who doesn't agree with Trump is treasonous to the GOP? You are a prime example why Republicans are in schism.
     
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    They still view Reagan as a borderline god. So, yes. The trick is they just ignore anything that they did which they disagree with. For example, they ignore the fact that Reagon supported Amnesty for illegals and raised taxes 4 times on the middle class tp pay for his huge tax breaks for corporations.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's hard for a normal person to understand this tragedy of amnesia populist Republicans appear to be infected with. I was too young to vote for Reagan as governor but did switch by voting for him in his second presidential term. Like w/ McCain, I think Democrats are much more patriotic compared to these populists.
     
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    From your link;

    When the all white GOP party loses women that places half their base at risk.

    What makes the risk even greater is that they are not just becoming Independents who might still vote for the R candidate. Instead they are ACTIVELY voting FOR the D candidates in growing numbers which effectively cancels outs the votes of the evangelical women who remain.

    In essence for every white women who leaves the GOP and votes Dem instead that is a de facto LOSS of 2 votes! That kind of attrition is going to be devastating if it persists in the Senate races in 2020.
     
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    With all due respect how would you know? Yourself being about 4 steps to the right of Genghis Khan.
     
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    That's how they got Trump, it was the triumph of partisan politics
     
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    That is the sort of problem we all share. And the nation's politics has become polarized. There is no middle of the road unless you count the apathetic.
     

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