Most Europeans want to STOP migration from Muslim countries, study finds

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  1. PoliticalHound

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    Sweden amazes me as a country. There are swedes on this forum who want war with Russia, others who hate muslims like it was their job.

    Then you have Swedes like Eric Prydz. Who are musical gods. Is Stefan Löfven better at mixing than foreign policy?
     
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    where then does this extremism begin. On the 25th October 1995 the Republicans ruled to move the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. This was something which should not have been decided before a final resolution of Oslo and was seen then as now as the US saying Jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel - hence the US saying No to the two state solution. This obviously emboldened the far right and religious anti two states in Israel resulting in the assassination of Rabin just a few days later on 4th November 1995.

    A few months after the first election of a Republican President since this Republic law on 1995, the US was attacked apparently for it's position in stopping there being a just settlement for the Palestinians. This is known as 9/11 and caused the deaths of around 3,000 people from all over the world and was abhorred by people all over the world.

    Despite support from the whole world, the US rather than going by the courts, decided to take on an impossible task - a 'war on terror'. Having started a war against Afghanistan which had nothing to do with 9/11 and who were more than willing to get rid of the Taliban themselves. The US with Britain following it despite the largest march ever against anything in the History of the UK then decided to have an illegal war against Iraq on which the pubic was given false information - WMD's which could reach the UK in 45mins and apparently Al Qaeda in Iraq although they had been told by our intelligence that such people were not operating in Iraq but the one way to get them there would be to invade Iraq and that such action would also most likely result in Islamic terrorist action in the UK. This was seen as a war for Israel not for the US.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/sep/03/worlddispatch.iraq

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2010/02/iraq-war-israel-bush-saddam


    One could be led to believe that the spread in Muslim extremism and terrorism in the West was what they wanted as they were warned that would likely happen and that was the result they got as well as the killing of over 1,000,000 Muslims, failed States and the ME living in total disfunction under either authoritarian rule, generally supported by the US or war. This has given rise to some terrorism in the West by these extremists frequently supported by the US, UK, Saudi Arabia and other gulf States. In addition 90% of the people these terrorist kill are Muslims.

    Now who the hell are the terrorists who have begot terrorism as you say.
     
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    Islam is no more a 'race' than Nazism or Fascism are races. It is a belief system, just like the other two..
     
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    There are no human races at all. Yet racism still is a thing. Isn't that strange now?
     
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    I blame the failed educational system and everyone who uses the term as further evidence of its failure.
     
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    I loved the bit where the Muslim was paid 30,000 crowns for being told to not discriminate against women and shake hands, ie. it was discrimination against him for not being allowed to, err, discriminate.

    What a cess pit of a country.
     
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    ISIS is the quintessence of Islam. Islam as specifically mandated by the Koran.
     
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    That's their choice. They could stop the endless cycle of violence. So it will be no one's fault but their own.
     
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    It all started when the US backed the wrong side in Afghanistan in the 1980s, where al-Qaeda was born. The rise of Islam is an unintended consequence of the Red Army's withdrawal from the country.

    [video=youtube;ek1BX9pf_1E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1BX9pf_1E[/video]
     
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    White, African black, Chinese, Indian and many others. There are many different races.

    Dislike of Muslims is based on their anachronistic religion and backward culture.

    I'm still trying to work out where they came from. In the 80s, the first decade I recall clearly, you never heard mention of them. You'd have a good laugh at the men in tee shirts and jeans sitting next to women in their burqas, but they were so few in number no one bothered about them, they were just funny. All of a sudden they're an existential threat.
     
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    As I could see it only a minority resorted towards extremism and the majority still believe in life and the bliss that it could bring. How hard is it to sway them and influence them of such a belief when mostly it's peace and harmony is at stake. No matter criticism and abhorrence we make we could not deny that they exist with us within the expanse of this single planet and everyone will be affected if they will not respect and believe anymore with the humanity which comprises them and us.
     
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    Tough. The good Muslims need to rise up and take out the bad ones. We're tired of fighting your war. Do your own house cleaning or feel the isolation of the world.
     
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    If they are good Muslims then they are quite for peace individuals and they themselves are terrified with the bestiality of their terrorist brethren, the same as how Catholics in Ireland felt about Sinn Fein and IRA before. But it's okay it's the world against them, but for now the most challenging undertakings to do is how to sift the bad Muslims from the Good ones.

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    If they are good Muslims then they are quite for peace individuals and they themselves are terrified with the bestiality of their terrorist brethren, the same as how Catholics in Ireland felt about Sinn Fein and IRA before. But it's okay it's the world against them, but for now the most challenging undertakings to do is how to sift the bad Muslims from the Good ones.
     
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    True, but radical Islam is a world wide problem, not just a regional one. It's time for the good Muslims to take a tough stance. There's no other way around it. Not unless we want another world war.
     
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    The Daily Mail is a British daily conservative, middle-market tabloid newspaper owned by the Daily Mail and General Trust. ... Its sister paper The Mail on Sunday was launched in 1982.
     
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    So why are they isolating themselves? If billions of them are against the world, they lose. Out numbered. The rest of the of the world will not live under theocracy. The muslims who do not sharia, who want to live in a free secular society, would not be isolated from the rest of the world, for they agree with the rest of the world. So that would leave those muslims who want to be isolated. So let them be isolated. We will not miss them.
     
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    As far as I can see, Stefan Löfven's only attribute is arrogance. Something he must have learned from the previous PM, Fredrik Reinfeldt (M). But Löfven certainly did look sheepish in Tehran yesterday, didn't he! In a debate between Jimmie Åkesson (SD) and Stefan Löfven (S) over the subject of the leading government's proposals and initiatives .... Åkesson turned to the speaker of the house and said, "Stefan Löfven har inte lyckats med någonting." 'Stefan Löfven has not succeeded in anything at all'. That statement has me chuckling every time I recall it.
     
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    If such a stage will be reached we will never miss them actually,
    for they will certainly be in our doorsteps suited with a belt full of TNT's and a detonator in one hand.
     
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    Completely understandable, Europe has done it's fair share of saving lives in respect to the refugees.
     
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    I explain the rise of Islamism by asserting that Islam has never made a secret of its global ambitions, and because of it's stupidity and total loss of basic common sense, the West has become ripe for launching the 'take-over bid'. Sometimes 'simplistic' can sum up a more profound subject fairly well.
     
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    Er, simplistic? [​IMG] But of course the trick is discerning ordinary peace-loving Muslims from the extremists?? In a way, the moderates are victims of their religious belief, and if they didn't flaunt it then nobody would know they're of that faith; but don't blame non-Muslims for being horrified and outraged at the atrocities of fundamental Islam.
     
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    Indeed, it seems the rise of Radical/Jihadist Islam has once again infiltrated Europe. It is obvious that there is no way to reform the political-religious ideology, of this barbaric 7th Century poison, that is infecting our Western democracies. To think that such a disgustingly brutal ideology is allowed to exist in our modern Western democracies is crazy. Zero tolerance laws need to made against Radical/Jihadist Islam, just like Nazism. I think a global security alliance with the UK, USA, EU, Russia and China will form to combat this toxic backward ideology as it threatens the entire global order. Remember the West defeated Nazism in around 4 years after allowing it to fester for around 2 decades. When the West wake up, Radical/Jihadist Islam will be gone.
     
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    Excellent post. But I believe the West has already lost the opportunity to take the initiative by failing to nip it in the bud at the time of the Syria uprising, and the way to have done that was to support Assad big-time. With all the elements you mention, especially Russia, because Russia knows how to deal with terrorism - ruthlessly and with extreme prejudice, as president Trump knows only too well? - as does China probably: I do believe, though, that even at this late stage we could still predominate, but because we failed Assad it'll now be a long and hard slog.
     
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