Most Europeans want to STOP migration from Muslim countries, study finds

I agree, it is going to be difficult and the longer it takes for a global security alliance to form, whilst we leave our borders open for infiltration, the greater the cost is going to be. I am surprised that it doesn't tweak to most people that Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait will not take Muslim refugees. This indicates an obvious global agenda for radical/jihadist Islam. Furthermore the leaders of nations like Canada are completely unaware of the orchestrated Islamic agenda of world domination. I am of the belief that Radical/Jihadist Islam will be defeated, but it is going to come at a great cost due the neglect of previous and current leaders, as you correctly point out.

I know this doesn't sound nice, however we need to close our borders now so we can begin to isolate this viral Radical Islamic ideology and leave them to kill each other, as they have done for 1400 years. If we bring this virus into our countries, we will end up like Lebanon, in constant civil war. Sweden will end up in civil war within a decade or so, unless they send the refugees back to their home nations now.

 

It's too late for Sweden and Canada - they've sleepwalked straight into a nightmare. Not only that, but even if the political will were there, where would they send the 'refugees' back to? The trouble with the Canada connection is that they've brought the problem closer to the US. I've no idea where any of us go from here when our politicians seem to be so unaware almost to the point of complicity - apart from DT.

 

Absolutely, there is evidence of a strong correlation between criminal violence and Muslim refugee/immigrant intakes, the obvious reason being is that Islam is unreformed and is incompatible with our Western democracies. Not surprisingly Sweden is the rape capital of Europe now. We only need to read the Koran and look at Muhammad's life to find the reason why violence follows Islam whereever it goes. If you have the time, I recommend watching this concise critique of Islam from well-informed and intelligent scholars, researchers and concerned citizens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4p39jeAVI

 

You're right, it is the recipe of incompetence, negligence and complicity of our past and present leaders that have led to this inevitable bloody path that we are on that will hit very close home for us all in the large cities anyway. A few people have said that it is too late for Sweden, it is a lost country that will spiral into civil war which I tend to agree. As for Canada, I was listening to their parliament the other day discussing Muslim immigration and it looks as if they too will go down the Swedish path as you suggest. If Sweden can deport the refugees on the basis that their home countries are safe to return to, they might have a chance. The UK has a decade before it reaches the point of no return some say. In the USA, I hope it doesn't get to the stage where citizens will enact the 2nd amendment and form militias to drive out Radical Islam, which is a possible scenario. What is a certainty is that global Islamic Jihad is here to stay until our leaders act to remove it or we all submit.

 

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and you claim not to be a Muslim hater. This is just the sort of thing people used to write about Jews and we know what the result of that thinking was.

 

Again you claim not to hate Muslims. Exactly who has been the countries showing their global ambition by starting multiple wars against countries in the middle east and creating failed states, the rise of extremism, at least a million dead and millions of refugees. Exactly who was it who decided to invade Iraq when told by their intelligent services that there currently were no Al Qaeda types working in Iraq but the one thing which would likely bring them there would be an invasion (the very people who were in any case originally trained and funded by the US for its ambitions in the Afghan/Soviet/US war) and which country was further told another likely response to invasion would be to get Islamic terrorism operating in Europe, the example given being bring it to the UK - which of course worked.

No, too off reality to be forgiven as just an attempt at a simplistic explanation.

 

I like when people start accusing others of hatred without actually providing any evidence for it. Shouting just for the sake of shouting it. However we have irrefutable evidence that British Muslims hate indigenous British people and everyone else who is different. As a matter of fact, they're taught to hate. I'm certain that Pakistani/Saudi run mosques in Scotland spew nothing but venom.

Caught red-handed.

Undercover Mosque: The Return

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/undercover+mosque+the+return/2436087.html

A year-and-a-half after the critically acclaimed film Undercover Mosque was first screened, Dispatches goes undercover again to see whether extremist beliefs continue to be promoted in certain key British Muslim institutions.

In the same mosque, the reporter visits the bookshop and discovers books and DVDs still on sale, promoting extremist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic and intolerant messages. Unbelievers ('kuffaars') are described in one DVD as: "Evil, wicked, mischievous people - you can see the evil in their face". Whilst Jews, "have abominated, filthy, disgusting gross belief - their time will come like every other evil person's time will come." Moderate Muslims and Islamic academics tell Dispatches they reject and condemn these teachings. Dispatches traces the links between the teachings and materials at the mosque and the Saudi Arabian religious establishment, and examines the extent to which Saudi Arabia exports such teachings around the world through the funding of literature, schools, mosques and other organisations...

 

Muslims are responsible for an estimated 240000000000 million dead over 1400 years, all in the name of their religion. The Middle East has been long at war internally, well before any sort of Western contact and intervention. You need to realise that it is a dangerous ideology issue that Islam has. The ideology isn't good for themselves and it isn't good for others. You watch what happens when the Muslim and Hindu populations in India eventually reach parity, you will see destructive bloody chaos and civil war. Islam isn't in the West to assimilate; it is in the West to dominate.

You do have a point though. We should send all the Muslims that want to live under their Islamic Law to a Muslim country and lock our borders to stop anymore Muslim immigration.

 

The post was the obvious evidence.

untrue personal attack

The first film was criticised in particular for it's splicing of things and I seem to remember for having spent hours and hours and misrepresenting by taking a few genuine issues and presenting them as the whole view - or possibly that was the Channel 4 one on schools - I seem to remember they recorded one teacher who had already been sacked by the time the film came out.

The second film I understand covers one Mosque and the findings are criticised by Muslims. It points out the infiltration of salafism in the UK. This was something encouraged by the UK government from the 80's - allowing Saudi Arabia, Britain's friend, to bring in it's teaching to British Muslims who in the main came from Pakistan and the majority of them from a roughly Sufi background. They had not bought into the Islam they were taught here, given that it was just learning the koran in a language they did not understand and some dances. Given that at that time they were facing racism for coming from Pakistan which resulted in them not feeling a strong sense of belonging they were drawn to this. This eventually gave rise to people like you mention who they called 'Super Salafis' who started being loud and telling people how they should live and so on. These people were eventually confronted by Muslims. You can read all about it here

https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bi...evelopment_of_British_Salafism.pdf?sequence=1

and now of course we have the situation with the creation of groups like ISIS after the US/British wars in the ME. Now while we do need to be aware of anything which is likely to give rise to terrorism this is something which all of the West is going to have to go through until the situation in the ME is sorted out justly. Where I think you step over the line is in trying to present this as the position of all Muslims and as apparently the reason why it is justified to hate Muslims.

You particularly mention Scotland. Very few Scottish Muslims have been attracted to radical Islam and last I heard only 4 had gone out to fight in the ME. They themselves put that down to the reality that in Scotland, Muslims, the police and the Government have a good relationship. Now there has been complaints made against a Mosque in Scotland but those complaints are Muslims complaining and an argument going on to bring liberal Islam to Scotland.

You yourself have of course before shown your hatred not just to Muslims but to the left in Britain suggesting the way to get them round to your way of thinking is to go after their families. I think you said 'that always works'.

 

Yes, I have noticed your posts claiming also that there are hundreds of thousands of radical islamists in the US and basically a call for genocide of Muslims

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=495988&p=1067104696#post1067104696

I am sure you will be thanked by those of like mind.

 

Personally i think it's fine to keep using the term due to it's historical context. We need to move away from the idea that biologistic racism is the only kind of racism and accept that cultural racism is also racism. Antisemitism existed long before the Nazis made up some biologistic bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about it and we need to treat anti-Muslim racism the same way.

 

This is a prime example for anti-Muslim racism and in accordance with the old antisemitic conspiracy theories about Jews having a global agenda.

 

Whenever I see the apologists' posts I just go and think 'useful idiots'. I find that it keeps my BP down to acceptable levels!

 

You obviously don't know there's a difference between Muslims and Islamists.

 

He said that Islam has a global agenda and that this global agenda is the reason for the rise of Islamism. He basically implied that Muslims are Islamist sleepers who are waiting for the West to grow weak. That is beyond any sane criticism of Islamism and falls right into the category of racist conspiracy theories.

 

She obviously doesn't understand nor has she any insight on the subject.

 

I'll just change a few words:

I explain the rise of Zionism by asserting that Judaism has never made a secret of its global ambitions, and because of it's stupidity and total loss of basic common sense, the West has become ripe for launching the 'take-over bid'.

 

I haven't noticed that Zionism is seeking global domination by fear and the perpetration of atrocities against unsuspecting women and children and all other vulnerable groups of human beings. I've noticed that Islam is though. If I were to be the least interested in your opinion I'd ask you to explain your ideological stance, but seeing as you have zero insight I'd rather not waste my time reading what you have to say.

 

Me neither and the same goes for Islam. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and the rise of Islamist extremists cannot be explained by using Islam as the primary cause. Doing so is just as absurdly racist as the Nazi's conspiracy theories about Jews were.

It seems rather obvious that the Cold War is the primary cause for the rise of Islamism considering that the Middle East was thrown into chaos and Islamist groups were helped into power by the West. The war on terror then just made it worse and managed to raise the number of Islamist terrorists from around 100 to around 100,000.

 

All Christians are extremists because Westboro Baptist Church. If they didn't flaunt it then nobody would know they're of that faith, but they all say "Merry Christmas", so don't blame non-Christians for being horrified and outraged at the atrocities of Christianity.

 

They would have joined the jihad anyway - it's been on the cards for centuries. Since the 7th century actually.

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We're not talking about Christians though, are we?

 

This is anti-Muslim racism and a very narrow-minded and uninformed analysis of Islamism.

 

If you accuse me of racism again I'll raise a formal complaint about it.

 

Feel free. I certainly won't stop calling out anti-Muslim racism where I see it though.