MSM Ignores Our Laws

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  1. RodB

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    OK. Then I'm curious: did anybody whine when Obama separated more than twice as many kids from their immigrant parents? Or is it just Trump you hate and don't really give a s**t about kids?
     
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    BINGO

    We have a winner here.

    Call out the TDS suffering fake news parrot for who they are.
     
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    And you are dodging but that's okay. It's fairly transparent. You've only been given one talking point and that is that they violated the law and that's why they are being separated from their children but when someone points out that not every violation of law results in separating child from parent you have no response because you haven't thought beyond that talking point. In order to have a good debate we both need to address the others points. You asked if I heard of immigration law, well seeing as I'm the son of immigrants and the father of a child born in another country to a citizen of that country I can tell you I know immigration law pretty well. I'm wondering what violation of immigration law requires separating families for months at a time? And before you respond with well they broke the law, I'd refer you back to my point that braking most traffic laws doesn't get your kids taken away so stating violation of law isn't a reasoned argument.
     
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    Violating an international border is not the same as trespassing. The first offense of illegal entry is a misdemeanor, the second a felony with hard time. They seem not to care, because we don't seem to care enough, as we have been so stupidly ignorant of the consequences in the past, and allowed them (any many Americans) to think there is no harm. Of course, at one time it was common to shoot trespassers. We don't shoot illegals crossing the borders. Do we need to rethink that to get their attention?
    That would be wrong- just as ignoring the consequences of illegal entry is wrong.

    Diluting the seriousness of this crime by comparing it to walking across your neighbors yard is ludicrous. Such people are not casually and temporarily passing- they are taking possession of your property without permission or bothering to ask for it. They come to move in permanently- not to visit.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd say you nailed it.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well....we seem to welcome MS13 here too!
     
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    Keep parroting the fake news.

    It is quite entertaining this morning.

    The rule of law really upsets the bleeding heart liberals doesn't it.

    Where were you guys this time last year?

    The year before that?

    And, the year before that?

    Silly parrots.
     
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    So you can't answer my simple question? What are you afraid of?
     
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    I have no idea what you are posting about.

    I'm not afraid of anything.
     
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    True, bank robbery is more serious than illegal entry. But illegal entry is a crime much more serious than running a stop sign.
     
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    Yes, but, if dad and mom robbed the bank together, like they are entering the country illegally together, makes a difference.
     
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    Watching ABC this morning it has been astounding watching the spin. Not once did they mention these kids illegally tried to enter nor the status of the parents NOT greeting them because they’re illegal also. They even said it’s only due to Trumps recent policy. No mention this has been going on for years. It’s ****ing disgraceful how it’s being “reported”. Fake, disingenuous and flat out lies creating a narrative. Truly distributing.
     
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    Not a thing, until they step over the line and become illegal.
     
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    Are you sure bank robbery is more serious than illegal entry?

    Isn't that assuming that you know the intention of the person entering illegally?

    And, keep in mind it's not just about illegal entry.

    See 9/11 hijackers.
     
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    No, but they might have if the child was also taken away from the mother who was not a criminal and still at home.
     
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    How serious a crime is it? Is it much more serious than running a stop sign? More serious than trespassing?
     
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    Yeah, we keep deporting the same people every week.
     
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    Well if you commit rape then I agree, you should be separated from your kids by prison. Care to address how to treat the 97% who aren't rapists. Who are just people seeking a better life for their families?
     
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    If you lived in the U.S. you'd know more about the U.S.!
     
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    ....completely inaccurate hyperbole…..
     
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    Let's pretend your fake news stats are real for just a sec ....

    Do you think open borders are worth 3% of rapist coming through?

    Of course you are .... you're a liberal.

    After all ... it wasn't your "younger than 14" year old daughter that was raped now was it?

    "The Daily Astorian reports Seaside police arrested 24-year-old Anastacio Eugenio Lopez-Fabian in February after investigators determined he had sex several times with a girl younger than 14."

    Man Twice Deported Accused of Raping Girl in Seaside, Oregon
     
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    This is a good example of what I am speaking of when I say the right wing is mindless, and lacking in knowledge. The individuals referred to are following the laws regarding those seeking asylum. And if you knew the law you would understand why Trump has to lie (as usual) saying it is a Democrat law that he is following.

    Ignorance, lack of ethics, and lack of integrity, is what got the coward Trump elected, and is defending him now.

    And no, I am not a Hillary supporter, and did not vote for her.
     
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    Families are only separated if the "parents" are claiming children that are not really theirs, or if the adults are criminals.
     
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    Tell it to the Kate Steinle family.
     
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