Mueller invokes unusual ‘conspiracy to defraud government’ charge to ensnare more targets

You mean that he takes experts? Nope.

Most republicans agreed Mueller was a good choice, even know even if there is the slightest rumor trump might think about stopping the investigation its republicans that clearly state this would create a huge problem.

And he's still under the supervision of rosenstein another republican, also appointed by a republican: trump.

This is just another excuse to not have to take that investigation serious : oh its democrats doing this. Nope its republicans doing this .

 

Establishment GOP are against Trump almost as much as Democrats, so no surprise they would choose Mueller. So, there are no expert Republicans who could fairly assist in the investigation? I find that hard to believe.

 

The statement was that this investigation is a democrat ploy. Thats BS. If its a ploy then its (as you say) a establishment republican/GOP ploy.

Never said that , I doubt mueller looked at party affiliation.

 

I don't think Trump was fooled appointing Rosenstein, but he was naive and showed poor political skills when he appointed questionable partisans who were experienced in their jobs, like Rosenstein, to show some kind of (delusional, in my mind) fairness. Sessions exaggerated the guidelines for recusal, and that was his bad judgement. He was influenced by Rosenstein, who was probably offering honest opinions.
What do you mean that Rosenstein has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation when he appointed Mueller and is the boss of the investigation?

 

Ploy is not the correct word; it's more of a camouflaged attack. The fact that there are some Republicans who are privately supportive (or in some, not so privately) of overthrowing the presidency does not detract from the primary movers. The impetus comes from Democrats and leftists with Mueller the current point man.

What are the odds?????

 

Yes, he should fire him. That should also free up the oval office for an un-electable Mike Pence...

 

Please, Trump is overthrowing himself.

Look at the man's history. This is nothing but his own behavior getting himself into trouble. All he had to do after getting elected was sit within a box. Yes, the presidency requires confromity. No, it's not about change or any of that political crap regardless of what Trump or Obama or Bush Jr or any other candidate has said. It's a box, defined by laws and a constitutions purposefully by founders who distrusted governments ruled by individuals and preferred a nation of laws. The presidency is not the same as running a business and certainly not a Trump business which is run into the ground at the expense of others.

 

Mueller took over the existing investigation started by the Corrupt Obama DOJ and FBI that had been in progress for nearly a year. But nice job trying to distance yourself from this collapsing turd.

McCabe just made life tough for Comey and the special counsel
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Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Lying Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President Trump and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.

In the middle of McCabe's whiny rant it is a line that incriminates fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.

McCabe is accused of lying to investigators about giving information to a former Wall Street Journal reporter about the investigation of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family’s corrupt "charitable" foundation. McCabe asserts in his post-firing statement that he not only had authority to “share” that information to the media but did so with the knowledge of “the director.” The FBI director at the time was Comey.

“I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor,” McCabe stated. “As deputy director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter.”

If the “interaction” means leaking the information, then McCabe’s statement directly contradict statements Comey made in a May 2017 congressional hearing. Asked if he had “ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” or whether he had “ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation,” Comey replied “never” and “no.”

The Justice Department’s inspector general clearly saw this “interaction” as problematic in seeking answers from McCabe. If the inspector general considered this to be a leak to the media, any approval by Comey would be highly significant. Comey already faces serious questions over his use of a Columbia University Law School professor to leak information to the media following his own termination as director.

In leaving the FBI last year, Comey improperly removed classified memos about the Russian investigation that he wrote concerning meetings with Trump. Since these memos discussed an ongoing FBI investigation and were written on an FBI computer, the bureau reportedly confirmed they were viewed as official documents subject to review and approval prior to any removal or disclosure.

Comey could have given the memos to the congressional oversight committees. Instead, he removed at least seven memos and gave at least four to his professor-friend to leak to the media. Four of the seven memos that Comey removed are classified. Since he reportedly gave four memos to his friend to leak to the media, at least one of the leaked memos was classified.

Now, McCabe appears to be suggesting that Comey was consulted before the alleged leak to the media on the Clinton investigation. Many of us had speculated that it seemed unlikely McCabe would take such a step without consulting with Comey. Yet, Comey repeatedly stated that he had never leaked nor caused anyone to leak information to the media.

The timing for Comey could not be worse. He already has started selling tickets, for roughly $100 each, to attend the tour for his forthcoming book, “A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership.” If he gave McCabe the green light for his “interaction,” the title could prove embarrassingly ironic.

If this was determined to be a leak with his approval, Comey would be labeled not just a leaker but a liar. Worse, his second-in-command just lost his pension after more than 20 years with the bureau, while Comey is about to cash in on a book and publicity tour potentially worth millions.

Comey also will be releasing his book around the same time as the inspector general’s report is expected to be made public. The inspector general reportedly will detail a number of irregularities under Comey’s watch. So the book could look more like a work of fiction if the inspector general finds that the FBI was a mess under Comey’s “leadership.”

McCabe’s termination is likely to only add to Comey’s problems. Four U.S. senators are calling for appointment of a second special counsel to investigate the Justice Department during the Clinton investigation. Moreover, there could be serious questions raised over the indictment of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn for misleading investigators, which is the same allegation that McCabe faced before his termination. McCabe’s case could still be referred to prosecutors for possible indictment under the same provision used against Flynn.

The McCabe controversy could also make life tougher for special counsel Robert Mueller. While McCabe lashed out at Trump in his statement, he may have just given Trump the long-sought cover to use his pardon power. If McCabe is not charged, Trump could cite that decision as the basis for pardoning Flynn, as a matter of equity and fairness.

More generally, the apparent conduct of both McCabe and Comey have fulfilled the narrative long advanced by Trump of a biased and unprincipled FBI investigation.

McCabe’s firing should reinforce calls for an independent investigation with the maximum level of transparency.

The FBI will not be able to regain the trust of many Americans without coming clean on this scandal. That means total transparency, which runs against the bureau’s culture. Yet, without greater disclosure, the public will be left wondering if a sense of Comey’s “Higher Loyalty” dangerously blurred the lines between “Truth, Lies, and Leadership.”

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...-life-tough-for-comey-and-the-special-counsel

 

Mueller and rosenstein and the entire investigation was approved/supported by a mayority of republicans. Combined with the democrats they have more the enough voted to impeach trump.
Dont forget impeachment is a political process, congress now with whats uncovered can already start such a procedure you dont need any criminal conviction.

So if it was as you say, what are they waiting for?


Reality of course is that this has nothing to do with a camouflaged attack from democrats using republicans. This was republicans that actually saw that this russia medling was a big deal and its quite normal this gets investigated . Strange that suddenly national security is of no importance any more for so many people.

 

Thats rosenstein is nowhere involved in the actual investigation. Thats mueller.

 

Now the Republicans after further review have come to the conclusion there is no collusion. So it's back to a good old fashioned alley fight.

 

Trump is reacting to the investigation just like you would expect a mobster to react. "I'm a legitimate businessman! The prosecutor is treating me unfairly!"

Waaaaaah!

 

Yeah, right. So in the meantime we're all still waiting for one shred of evidence to come forth proving that Donald Trump did anything illegal. Meanwhile Hillary broke so many laws its a damn disgrace but nobody is interested in conducting a real investigation of her and her corrupt campaign. Typical Democrat behavior.

 

Thats simply made up BS.

The investigation of mueller is not the FBI investigation nor the senate or the house's.

You simply dont understand what a special council is. But I dont think not knowing anything has ever stopped you from commenting on it.

 

If that was the case then how come there isnt overwhelming support to close down the mueller investigation?

After all trump isnt shutting down mueller because he is afraid of the reaction of republicans. If it is as you say they are convinced its pointless what is trump waiting for?

 

Wel what is trump or congress waiting for to instruct the DOJ to investigate this?

 

Right now they are probably still trying to find somebody to run the FBI who isn't one of Hillary's conspirators and ass kissers. That may take a long while.

 

Read (b), Silly!

 

Mueller Has Been Botching Investigations Since The Anthrax Attacks...

Screw-ups cost taxpayers millions...

 

You really believe Hillary is that powerfull? Wow.

 

I do and you know you do too.

 

Read it yourself if it was taking over an investigation why is it ordering a new investigation and putting it under a special council?

Again you simply have no clue and seem to think mueller works for the FBI.

 

It shouldn't have been. Rosenstein erred.

No. You are making things up and attributing your fabrications to others.

Representative Adam Schiff (D., Calif.), fails to defend the issuance of FISA court surveillance warrants against an American citizen tied to the Trump campaign, Carter Page, in a counterintelligence investigation seeking to probe suspected ties between Donald Trump and Russia. The warrant was issued based on uncorroborated hearsay allegations from unknown sources, compiled in the so-called Steele dossier. The FBI and Justice Department failed to disclose that these allegations were generated by an opposition-research project commissioned by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...age-fisa-warrant-fbi-should-have-interviewed/

 

Nope I think thats pretty deluded to think a secretary of state almost a decade ago has that kind of power.

Reality is of course she was a trumped up enemy the GOP could rally against.

 

If trump has the backing of republicans he can correct that easily

Mueller will bring out the truth in all this. Quite funny to see you and trump running so scared. If trump has noting to hide he shouldnt be worried .