My Thoughts on Ferguson

guilty?

really?

you should know that no one is guilty of a crime until a court says so.

 

Can you post please? I would sorry if you have it elsewhere I have just only seen the autopsy and that definitely didn't do it.

I really hope you don't mean eyewitness testimony by his friend though right?

 

He's on video stealing something ....

And assaulting the guy -edit-

 

the construction workers

 

It's not really that simple in court though.

Since there are so many stories that are different with zero evidence of any yet, the in,y for sure thing we can go off of is the blood trail showing brown chargin after being shot.

To me that says a lot....

Hope we can get body cams on cops out of this

 

They are not saying he couldn't have. They are saying that he didn't. The "witnessess" who said he did, and that the cop purposely shot him in the head while he had his hands up fell apart on the stand and kept changing their stories. Their completely failure as witnesses, and others who testified that Brown had charged at the officer before being shot is the reason that the Grand Jury chose not to indict.

It's more than possible that Brown did have his hands up, and that the witnesses were simply nervous and couldn't handle being on the stand, which is actually quite common. However, the fact that it could be true is not proof that it is, and the only evidence that Brown was trying to surrender, and that he did not charge at the officer is faulty testimony. There is no other evidence that points to that.

 

Yeah, it actually does.

 

Innocent? to coin your own phrase...prove it.

 

contradiction means they disagree, not that one outweighs the other.

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i keep hearing that, without any evidence to support it

 

It proves the person who stated that was lying, doesn't matter what else they said. Their testimony is not credible.

 

You are talking about the liars who were blown out of the case when the Grand Jury reviewed the evidence and the eye witness testimony from the non-liars. The biggest liar of all was Johnson who was the co-perpetrator of the robbery and co-assailant of Officer Wilson. He was also revealed to be a chronic liar on official documents. That and those are the source of your 'information' that Brown had his hands in the air . . . known and proven l-i-a-r-s.

 

Right but it means in a court of law it is not a fact or even permissible in court if this was taken to trial.

So it doesn't really count as anything

 

I believe links to transcripts of the hearing have been posted.

 

the 9 white jurors chose to disregard the eyewitness evidence that says Brown had his hands up.

do you know anything about St. Louis? its one of the most racist parts of the USA.

 

When a witness changes their testimony which one are the jurors supposed to go with?

 

ive seen no evidence the construction workers changed their testimony.

 

From your own post. Shot yourself in the foot. No logical reason for a trial as for all intents and purposes it has been conducted.

"This grand jury’s job was closer to what would usually be expected of a trial jury. "

 

Show us some proof of that or receive the Al Sharpton award.

 

Show me the evidence. You got nuttin. Center mass, head, what is the dif? You are stopping the punk either way.

 

And your reclining chair is where exactly in Ferguson, MO?

 

There is no such evidence.

 

FIne. Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this viewpoint?

No, you don't.

You don't have any eyewitness statements, you don't have any physical evidence, you don't have anything.

The only thing you have is your imagination. Fantasies. Delusions. Pure liberal dreamland.

 

Maybe you ought to read the grand jury testimony.

It doesn't support what you're suggesting.

In fact it completely contradicts it.

You should read it before you say anything more.

 

Innocent? ROFL!!! Where do you libs come up with this cr*p? Dude robbed a store owner, then assaulted a cop, then called him a p*ssy. That's not innocent, that's a thug on a rampage. WTF is up with this Orwellian doubletalk? Innocent my foot! The liberal poster boy assaulted a police officer, that's why he's dead.

 

You sound more deluded by the minute. This stuff seems to be taxing your brain. Look man, it's really simple. Do you know the difference between physical evidence and testimony? In forensics, the physical evidence always takes precedence. Yes it is definitely a case of precedence. Physical evidence trumps testimony every single time, in every courtroom everywhere in the USA, without exception. This is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of evidence, and the physical evidence says Michael Brown didn't have his hands up when he was shot. Do you not understand this? Those two construction workers you speak of were either mistaken or outright lying (probably the latter). Their testimony is contradicted by the physical evidence. And after being confronted with the evidence and with other testimony, they both recanted and/or altered their stories.

And I mean, it's even easier than that. It's real real hard to get shot in the top of the head when you're standing up with your arms raised. And it's almost a physical impossibility to raise your hands like that while your charging someone with your head down.

What you're suggesting is simply not possible, Ronstar. Really man, you're clinging to a fantasy. Time to get real. Michael Brown is dead because he assaulted a police officer. And cops are authorized and trained to use deadly force in exactly such circumstances.

History is no excuse for what Michael Brown did. He robbed an immigrant businessman, then he assaulted a police officer, and now you want to excuse his thuggery on the basis of.... what? Some ill-defined systemic "corruption" you can't even articulate? Two eyewitnesses who were proven to be either lying or badly mistaken? Some kind of ancient "history" that doesn't involve any white man living today?

On what basis exactly are you trying to excuse an unprovoked assault on a police officer?