N.Y. judge halts 'stop-and-frisk' tactic outside Bronx building

If they did nothing wrong, then they have nothing to hide. We have to make sure the streets are clear of guns and other dangerous or illicit items. It's a matter of public safety and good.

 

are you the Ghost of Christmas Past, Present or Future?

 

I'm just an advocate for public safety and health. Guns and other illicit items ought to be regulated in the public space. Truly, we cannot afford to have any excess freedom, lest an avalanche of externalities buries us beneath a mountain of sub-optimal living!

 

when did rights become illicit?

 

It is not a question of rights, and the rights are maintained ultimately because self-determination is reestablished after the fact; the issue is public safety and order; we cannot have individuals bucking public prerogative because they have some fanciful notions about their rights being inconvenienced momentarily! Ultimately, if you've done nothing wrong, then there is nothing to hide.

 

Why are we wasting the Peoples' tax monies when our Founding Fathers already told us what is necessary to the security of a free State.

 

What waste? Public assets are being put to good use in the service of public safety and health. One could argue that such activity is a natural extension of the sentiment as expressed in the general welfare clause of the US Constitution. Clearly, then, it is not a waste or an affront to our US Constitution to act in the interest of the collective good in this particular instance. We must look to the general welfare and regulating the public space is surely within the lawful purview of local authorities. Tisk-tisk!

 

hehehe lol!

 

I am not sure why that obligation falls under the general welfare clause instead of our Second Amendment.

 

If the police did nothing wrong, there wouldn't be an injunction.

 

These attitudes are sick and COMPLETELY anti-American.

This woman was HOMELESS. If she had been selling drugs, she wouldn't have been HOMELESS.

I dearly hope someday some cop likes the look of your truck, pulls you over and tosses a quarter ounce of coke in the back seat, and puts you in jail for the mandatory minimum of 10 years, and takes your vehicle and any money you are carrying as "drug confiscation" for their next policeman's woodsie party.

Then you can write us and tell us about how nice "Street justice" is after Black Bubba your cellmate has enjoyed your body for 10 years.

PS. HE pulls you over because you are wearing the "black coat and white shirt gang colors" on your way home from church.

 

The searches weren't of people entering the building - the searches were random [] searches on the sidewalk outside of "suspicious" (i.e. usually non white) people walking by.

 

I hope this and other posts you have made on this thread are sarcasm, to show the double standard many of the more left-leaning posters have towards the constitution. If not you have changed alot since I used to post here before.

I am proud the judge halted the searches now if they would just expand that to the entire city,state, and country. I am tired of the police state constantly being allowed to do as they wish, just so some feel safer. Anyone who thinks this is not the rule as opposed to exception has never lived in the inner-city. It is no longer confined to just the inner-city however, you only have protected rights anymore if you can afford a good lawyer.

 

It's a little like the situation where you go into a store and there's a sign stating conditions of entry, one of which is that if you want to come in then the store can search your bag. You go in, you've consented; you kick up a stink, you're a trespasser ab initio. That's okay because you have the right to object to the conditions of entry and not actually go into the store. As you say police frisking people outside an apartment block is a very different issue. I'm surprised they thought they could get away with it.

 

How about when that evidences of wrongdoing is hiden on a person. You really want a person walking up to you and happen to pull out a knife or gun to use on you. Just maybe that knife or gun wouldn't have been there if you would stop feeling so sorry for the criminals and let the police do their job.

If those being frisked have nothing to hide then theres nothing they have to worry about. Start thinking more about the ones that protect you than the ones that want to take you out (and I don't mean on a date).

 

That's not an answer to what I asked.

Progressives cannot face black on black homicide head on. They always have to resort to ad hom attacks.

 

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If there isn't enough evidence of danger from people with guns to look for guns then why are there such strict gun restrictions in NY City? It seems reasonable to me -unreasonable search be prohibited - to search the people most likely to be carrying an illegal gun. If you don't want to be searched change your profile?

As Soros was thinking about this comment did he think about what the dems and BH Obama are doing to the Constitution? <<<Mod Edit: Discuss the Topic not the poster>>>>>

 

This is proof that all they want to do is go after LEGAL gun owners. They have no desire to control the gangs and illegal weapons.

 

I believe that line of reasoning is disingenuous on the part of gun lovers without a Cause, but who may have a profit motive.

Our Second Amendment clearly enumerates to gun lovers what is necessary to the security of a free State; why complain about it, if they really care about their republic as much as they claim to care about their guns?

 

This is a good start. They now need to eliminate all stop and frisk.

 

In my opinion, our "crime" problem is only due to a lack of leadership in local government since our Second Amendment clearly and specifically enumerates, what is necessary to the security of a free State of our Union.

 

Why are you insisting on disorder and lawlessness? Don't you want to make sure that our public space is free of guns and other dangerous items?

 

No they don't. I don't understand this thinking about illegal searches with stop and frisk. DWI checkpoints are the exact same thing and the SC ruled it was ok.

 

I just like throwing the progressive argument back in their faces. They are the most inconsistent and illogical people on the internet. They routinely pick and choose which "rights" they are willing to recognize as they have no discernibly consistent principles except pure and unadulterated self-interest.

 

Sort of reminds me of gun lovers with only a profit motive, but without a Cause.