"National Gun Laws" and Chicago. FAIL

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mahatma Gandhi didn't think so. You can never enslave people against their will.

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    Not if vast overwhelming majority of the people supported it.
     
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    When the People are unable to take arms against their government they are effectively slaves.

     
  3. CurrentsITguy

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    Rights are Inherent and are not subject to a popularity contest. You may not like the fact you have Freedom of Speech, for example but guess what? You're stuck with it.

    All government can do is prevent the exercise of Rights.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Start a new thread on this and we can debate what you claim.
     
  5. Rucker61

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    That "vast overwhelming majority" is quantified as "38 states' legislatures have to ratify any amendment". Other than that, your suggested changes are unconstitutional.
     
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    Feel free. I'll jump in in a few. I've got to find a Senior Project Manager for overhead high voltage construction and might be involved for a bit:roll:
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to start somewhere to accomplish your goals. This would be a good start.

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    Okay fair enough. :)
     
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    Here's your teaspoon.
     
  9. OrlandoChuck

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    You do know that this is never going to happen in our lifetime, don't you? This is your pipe dream and your pipe dream only. This country is currently trying to eliminate the death penalty. Most on death row are there for 15 years or more.This year we executed only 20 people and each year we execute fewer people.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Teaspoon's eventually grow into table spoons.
     
  11. Rucker61

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    The ocean is still the ocean.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chuck, I know a small handful of people who share the same vision on this so-called "pipe dream"; I know that I'll never see it come to fruition, but perhaps my children or grandchildren will. Either way I'll be out of the picture by then and it won't matter to me anymore, however in the meantime i'm going to maintain my viewpoint on this. Nice to see you pop in once in a while; be well now.
     
  13. Rucker61

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    Why do you think we need to eradicate guns? No other country has, or tried to.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, I'll view it as a challenge. :)
     
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    Why do you want to execute non-violent citizens?
     
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    Look at it this way... you want to cut down on deaths.... we all do.
    It is possible that we will see an end to the death penalty in our lifetime.
     
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    A few eye-candy pics as food for thought-

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    Death penalty for having a gun. Let's start with the death penalty for anyone committing a crime with a gun. But libs like you would have a total melt down if we did that.

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    Good luck with that.
     
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    If you live in IL, drive to IN, buy a gun, and drive back to IL with it, you have committed a federal felony.
    Thus, the call for "national" gun laws has already been answered.
     
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    Indiana laws broken:

    Illinois resident buying a handgun in Indiana without an FFL: felony
    Illinois resident buying a handgun in Indiana with the intent to resell or otherwise transfer the handgun to another person who the transferor knows or has reason to believe is ineligible for any reason to purchase or otherwise receive a handgun: felony
    Illinois resident buying a handgun in Indiana with the intent to transport the handgun out of the state to be resold or otherwise provided to another person who the transferor knows is ineligible to purchase or otherwise receive a firearm: felony
    Buying, selling or possessing stolen goods.

    Illinois laws broken:

    It is unlawful to carry or possess any firearm in any vehicle or concealed on or about the person, except on one’s land or in one’s abode or fixed place of business, without a license.
    Selling a handgun without an FFL
    Buying a gun without an FOID card
    Buying ammo without an FOID caard
    Buying a handgun under the age of 21
    Selling a handgun without a 72 hour waiting period.

    Possibly: Buying, selling or possessing stolen goods.
     
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    Yeah.... and in IL, my OH CCW allows me to have a loaded gun on my person while inside a motor vehicle, but not outside it.
     
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    You would not be able to drive to Indiana to get a gun there because it would be just as hard as Illinois. How can you not see this?
     
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    "Common sense".
     

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