Nearly half of Republicans think US has to live with mass shootings, poll finds

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Nope!
    Try what the American Academy of Paediatrics recommend

    https://www.aap.org/en/advocacy/gun-violence-prevention/
    https://www.aap.org/en/advocacy/gun-violence-prevention/

    is that one thing so onerous?
     
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    No idea what "strengthening background checks" means, but if it means UBCs, they are ineffective and unenforceable, and have fee attached to exercise a right for a useless law. Unacceptable.

    ERPOs ignore due process, ignoring the danger inherent in the person and only addressing possession of one type of weapon.

    Encouraging safe storage is great. How about incentivizing it with tax breaks?

    Banning assault weapons is unconstitutional and won't protect children. If a madman can kill 30 adults with handguns, he can do that to children, too.

    Firearm trafficking is already against the law.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t forget you; one of my usual long winded responses is com as an answer to your covert attempt at staking out the moral high ground. on other topic we have a level of agreement, but anything related to gins we might have similar goals but are diametrically opposed when it comes ro the solution. So, stay tuned and brace yourself.
     
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    If you look at the history, the DOE is reacting to the trend among parents that abdicate their role in their children’s educations.
     
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    Parents have been coerced into giving up their role as parents to the government. Terry McAuliffe finally said the quiet part outloud when he said parents don't have a say in what their kids are taught at school. Then, when parents react to that, the DOJ labels them as terrorists.
     
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    I note you do not have any links to back this belief
     
  7. Bowerbird

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    So….. tell me how it really works - 30 kids in a class 30 parents each with a different idea of what should be taught - or is it only the right that should have a say?
     
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    If you can reduce the child deaths I really really do not care how
     
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    Are you saying none of those parents have a say, only the government? Your attitude shows the difference between a subject and a citizen.
     
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    What is taught in schools is determined by the local school boards, which are ultimately put into power by the parents.

    You are spewing nonsense.
     
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    .........
     
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    I think you're mischaracterizing this.

    Or maybe the sorcerer using is mischaracterizing it.

    And some people don't want to do anything except for gun control because if we do something that works and it isn't gun control it will mean we don't need gun control.

    This is a problem with sacred cows. All this is about as protecting them from being gored.
     
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    Well that poster is an Aussie and there can be no other solution but gun control because of something else works it will mean their religion is wrong. Maybe Australians will be a little pissed off at the government for stealing their rights.

    For these people gun control has to happen no other solution can work because if it does it will mean they gave up their rights for nothing.
     
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    And when the parents dared to question the school boards, the DOJ labeled those parents terrorists.
     
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    Even if the method is unconstitutional?
     
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    foreign gun banners tend to be contemptuous of our constitution. what I never can figure out is why we have foreigners who are so obsessed with getting rid of a right we have, that they do not. I attribute it to the Aesop fable about the fox that lost its tail
     
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    They have a say, but relegate the decision to the school board they elect.
     
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    Why are you so obsessed with infringements of the 2A, based on the 10A?
    Which has nothing at all to do with the 2A.
     
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    because twice I took an oath to support the constitution and I tire of people who disrespect it for political reasons. You apparently are unable to understand constitutional theory.The tenth amendment means the federal government doesn't have any power to regulate firearms in the first place.
     
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    I tire of those who complain about infringements on the 2A while promoting infringements of the 2A for political reasons.
    You apparently are understand constitutional theory. Theory is something someone makes up to make something the believe make sense.
    But no where in any documents does it say the 2A shall not be infringed, except what for the 10A says. So, that's something made up.
    And now you claim the fed gov't has no power over 2A? That means the USSC also.
    And that means the fed gov't has no power over anything.

    So why do you argue for 2A rights, when there's no 2A rights according to your made up theory?

    Only States can say what they can infringe upon per the 2A according to your made up theory.
     
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    this is a typical ploy from anti gun activists. they claim if someone say supports bans on nukes or bans on someone with a murder conviction who is out of jail, that is no different than them supporting bans on scary looking guns or waiting periods or other crap. You don't understand that the second amendment is not even needed at a federal level if the tenth amendment was properly enforced.
     
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    No they don't. That's why school boards have meetings that are open to the public.
     
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    LOL. You're memory doesn't seem very good. I am not a anti gun activist.
    Just because I call out your complaining about 2A rights, while you claim some false 10A link so you can infringe on 2A rights, does not make me anti gun any more than you are anti gun.
    You've admitted several times you are for 2A infringements due to the 10A.
    Even though 2A explicitly says, 'shall not be infringed'.
     
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    LOL. They have meetings for input and feedback. But the board makes the final decisions.
     
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    If you don't think 18 year olds should be able to buy rifles and if you think there should be a waiting period for people who pass a background check to buy firearms you are anti gun. You see-your mindset is this: you support worthless actions that harass honest gun owners that will have absolutely no value in stopping criminals from getting guns. You also continue to prove that you are laughably deficient in understanding the constitution and what the tenth amendment is supposed to do. Claiming that I support 2A infringements because I want the tenth amendment enforced demonstrates a frightening lack of even having a sliver of a clue about what the tenth amendment means.
     
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