Negligence and Human Cruelty

But until they can demonstrate that they are ligitimate refugees they are trying to enter Australia ilegally. In fact I would say anyone coming by boat should be automatically considered to be trying to enter illegally and arrested. They should be ineligible to claim asylum because they had the funds (which they gave to a people smuggler) to make an application through the proper channels.

 

That's an interesting point. I was just wondering which way the PM's family arrived in Australia, over 50 years back. I assume by boat. So reflecting a bit over 200 years, the true holders of Australia could say, we all arrived illegaly.
But that is a different story for you right wingers, isn't it?

 

Correct, they are didn't things... the original white settlers didn't arrive and join the Aboriginal community, they replaced it... so its a different thing entirely. Economic migrants who are breaking immigration laws are trying to actually join our society, not replace it. To use equivalent vernacular, are all left wingers arguments purely devoid of logic and just based on emotional contagion for the sake of justifying their existence by being antipodal or retrograde!?

 

Fact is that paying for a passage on an unauthorised "people smugglers" boat and arriving in Australia without a visa and without any documentation to seek asylum is NOT a crime under any Australian, or indeed International laws.

If we want to make it a crime, then we should unsign the refugee convention and change the law.

But what we shouldn't do is lock people up indefinitely for committing NO CRIME.

 

Politicians can legislate and pass laws to give themselves all manner of goodies, but they cannot pass laws to make it illegal and a crime for people who engage in criminal activity and pay people smugglers $10,000 to be smuggled into our country by the backdoor illegally without documentation? What a bunch of scum-bag hobo's our politicians are.

 

So many people, so many different opinions.....

http://rran.org/learn-more/people-smuggling/

AT,
the way you state and express your opinion just signals your look at this whole subject, its not about preventing refugees drowning at sea, but for them never to arrive in Australia. In that context you share the same DNA as Tone Abbott and his henchmen/women, or even Adolf Hitler, admittingly slightly exaggurated. It is called Australia for Whites (Christians) only, isn't it?
Can't you just be honest for once????
Regards

 

From the Gov.au;

People smuggling is a crime under Australian law

See; http://www.ag.gov.au/CrimeAndCorruption/Peoplesmuggling/Pages/Peoplesmugglinglegislation.aspx

 

What the heck are you talking about? My post was in reply to you comparing original White settlers with current asylum seekers.... how has that any indication of those things? If your going to try and get personal at least make it relevant to the person, not just some generic hate ramble

 

They are living over in Indonesia for years until they save $30,000 for 3 smugglers tickets to Australia. What happens to the family or 3 people living in refugee camps around the world, who cannot save $30,000 to be smuggled illegally into Australia or another country?

 

CD,
have you bothered to read the link?
Regards

 

Twisting like a snake, aren't we?
Regards

 

... by saying your post had no relevance? Yea you are.

 

So much for Scott Morrison asserting " When someone becomes ill they receive outstanding care from the people who work as part of our mainland detention network."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...s-accounts-20140919-10jgnx.html#ixzz3DrREDy74

Scott Morrison, you are a LIAR.

 

Please note, YOUR ARTICLE,

Another comment based upon rumour and innuendo... Perhaps we should wait until these things are not allegations before presumptions are made, OR do you really want to be the first person to score a point off this???

 

Witnesses are speaking out and you call those witnesses 'rumour and inuendo'. They wade through sewerage with no shoes, enough inside workers have spoken out about the appalling conditions inside Manus Island, so this is HARDLY 'rumour and inuendo'. Pretty common knowledge about the dire conditions in that detention centre.

 

Just as you accuse Morrison for not being truthful, others also can be assumed to be untruthful. I grant that evidence is mounting BUT as stated they are all allegations at this point and nothing more. As with many other things I will wait until this evidence is substantiated by more than a media article that states what I want or what I don't want to hear. When these so called witnesses are prepared to give their evidence where they know full well if they lie they will be held accountable...

 

Don't expect any accountability or responsibility form the LNP sewer rats on this, they will have a "scape-goat" hidden away somewhere to put all the blame onto, while they get a free pass to go and collect $200.

 

What a shambles, the budget, the war-cry, climate change, and now dumping refugees in Cambodia, a poor, poor, poor place.

Morrison, the wanker and total liar:

Seriously, Morrison, you're an idiot. 'Seeking our advice'?!?! Yeah, right. Dumping refugees on Cambodia is what you're doing.

Australia is going down the toilet. Ethics = zero. Compassion = zero. Stupidity = Through the roof.

 

Good on ya Scotty! Sending them off to Cambodia will dissuade more of these lying welfare shoppers from trying the old boat trick!

 

As a good old (presumably redneck) Aussie, didn't your lot arrived in boats?
I wonder what the real Australians might have thought about your great grand at that time.....
Regards

 

Clearly a major disconnect is going on when you misrepresent people in desperate need as 'lying welfare shoppers'.

I remember they used to refer to people who had innocent idealistic illusions about life as 'Pollyanna's'. I'll call you Pollyanna since your posts show how incredibly unaware you are of war and displacement and threat of persecution and death. A regular Pollyanna who thinks that the desperate, displaced, persecuted people of the world are 'lying welfare shoppers'. Not just a case of Pollyanna but of Ignorance Through The Roof.

 

Yeah but they didn't pretend to be refugees or put their hands out for welfare and immediately started work to support themselves and put roofs over their heads.

 

Actually Gwenie, I think you might be the Pollyanna here. You are obviously a caring person who wants to help everyone you percieve as being in need but just wee bit unrealistic.

 

ooo I don't think he is a Pollyanna ... maybe the opposite.

 

It is possible to help everyone in need, but your attitude is that they can all go help themselves. I hope you can always "help yourself", hate to see you need help one day. You would get it though, that's the good thing about Australia.