New Poll: 72 percent say media ‘dividing Americans,’ spreading ‘hate’

I know I have already posted the exact same thing regarding the media being the major cause of the division between progressives, moderates and conservatives. I believe this is absolutely true.
Everyone I talk to gets along just fine regardless of their political views. I love the City I live in. It is extremely diversified as is my immediate neighborhood. No one protests here and there has been no violence. However, in Houston proper where there are many Democrats, there are protests but as far as I know little violence if any.

A many of my hispanic friends are Republican. Contrary to what you may think from what is reported by media, there is a large portion of hispanics and african americans that vote Republican. And the majority vote Republican for State Government. Because, we fear a Democrat Governor, house and senate will enact a state income tax or put the state in debt forcing inplimentation of a State tax. I dont agree with many positions of State and Federal Republicans, but I disagree more with the way Democrats are becoming more socialist and progressive. I dont like where they would take the Country. And I don't like how they and the liberal media are attempting to hijack the Government by spinning lies, allowing undocumented citizens who do not even have a SSN of their own to vote . sanctuary cities, crooked liberal judges who undermine our laws.

 

Another great example of quotes from The GOP brainwashing service... No undocumented citizens are voting. Pure imaginary bs hate propaganda. Nobody is crooked until proven guilty just more ridiculous propaganda.

 

Still waiting for a lie from CNN or whatever...

 

They make a few mistakes and have retractions when they are wrong, unlike the GOP propaganda machine just keeps rolling along with phony scandals and character assassination. That never get to court or anywhere else.

 

The nut in Florida said she included non-citizen votes. San Fran school system allowing them to vote. Yet U.S. Citizens with a previous Felony cannot vote in many States. That is B.S. Everything you accuse the GOP of is exactly what the Dems have been doing for decades. The Dems have had more practice and actually do a much better job of spinning facts, assassinating peoples character. Oh, and holding protests that often end in violence. Not once did we hear of the violence at a Tea Party protest.

And, we accepted Obama as our President as we have all elected Presidents. Yet you goof balls have the nerve to say "Trump isn't my President". Well guess what he is. And as a College educated woman, I don't need anybody to tell me how to think. It is uneducated democrats that are totally brainwashed by the media, and think taxpayers should pay for your basic needs. Start thinking for yourself, educate yourself by studying history and researching what is behind our legislatures decisions. Contact your representatives and tell them why you disagree with various legislation and law instead of calling them names, attacking them in public and the like. Do something positive and explain your position instead of just disagreeing and attacking others.

 

I'll go find a story of theirs my news feed only goes back about 30 hours.

I believe exaggerations and deliberately leaving out important facts is lying, and adding them in at the end of the article does not undo the lie at the beginning.

 

the San Francisco School district allows them to vote in School board elections d u h... Everything you know is wrong.

 

Sorry what total meltdown of morality and judgement among the Democrats. It is Republicans who seem to need wars and hugh military spending and are busy trying to gut healthcare and assistance to the poor while passing massive tax cuts for the rich.

And no the financial crisis was not cause by Fanny and Freddy making home ownership more affordable. Educate yourself out of ignorance and party dogma and learn a bit about economics. Try learning a bit about the derivatives market, bond rating agencies and exactly what percentage of failed loans were fanny and freddy snd then get back to us.

 

And there will probably be more, now that the democrats have a majority in the house and intend to investigate and indite everybody. Never is our long history of petty politics have we had people so incredibly devoid of morality that they would discard their own self respect sufficiently to turn everything they didn't like into a justification for character assassination.

And the question of debt is not how high it is- but how far it was pushed up, and by whom. The two top presidents in this respect are a democrat and a liberal. However, NO president does this on their own, because they cannot pass a budget- only congress can do that, and congress can slice and dice any budget the administration submits at will. If they couldn't, there would be a wall at the southern border right now.

Stop thinking that hanging trash makes anyone victorious or correct, and start thinking about the future and good of the nation. The president is ONE man, but he must really be powerful, because he has been blamed for the loss of self-control by millions of liberals and democrats.

YOU are responsible for what you do , what you say, what you think-
UNLESS YOU ARE MENTALLY A SPOILED CHILD, BLAMING YOUR STATE OF MIND AND TANTRUMS ON SOMEONE ELSE.

 

Wrong, the so called 24/7 national enquirer news media, works for themselves. Their pay comes from viewer ship which then correlates to price they can sell advertising for. They just run with stories that attracts viewers. Nothing more.
Common sense folks, use common sense.

 

Do you ever follow financial news, read, comprehend? Apparently not. I owned construction businesses at the time. Had stock in one California bank that had developers hammered as a result of collapsing mortgage industry, and was at risk. Spent an hour speaking to the CEO of that bank on the risk and how it came about. Also read the overall crisis correctly, and made a great deal of money investing by knowing who would fall and who would bounce high. Probably know 50 times what you do about the event, the causes and damages.

Took one brief inquiry to support the point you argue.

The Financial Crisis 10 Years Later: Fannie and Freddie Fueled the Subprime Mortgage Bubble
Daniel Press • September 12, 2018

https://cei.org/blog/financial-cris...e-and-freddie-fueled-subprime-mortgage-bubble

 

Legitimate Pulitzer Prize winning newspapers must give the news correctly or else they lose their global status. But repeating the mantra fake news, fake news, the uneducated believe it

 

Says the guy who says the D's are responsible for every ill.
The guy who tried to claim obama doubled the deficit and I clearly showed you he increased it 74%, while Reagan increased it 186% and bush W, 105%. Each of them more than doubled it and obama less than doubled it. While he brought the country out of the greatest recession this side of the great depression.

https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151
10 Presidents With Biggest Debt Increases
Percent Increase
Added to Debt (in Billions)
Franklin D. Roosevelt
1,048%
US$236
Woodrow Wilson
727%
US$21
Ronald Reagan
186%
US$1,860
George W. Bush
101%
US$5,849
Barack Obama
74%
US$8,588
George H.W. Bush
54%
US$1,554
Gerald Ford
47%
US$224
Jimmy Carter
43%
US$299
Richard Nixon
34%
US$121
Bill Clinton
32%
US$1,396
President Donald Trump: Total Actual plus Budgeted = $5.683 trillion, almost as much in one term as Obama accumulated in two. For this reason, many often ask, “Is Trump or Obama better for the economy?”

• FY 2021 - $916 billion.
• FY 2020 - $987 billion.
• FY 2019 - $984 billion.
• FY 2018 - $833 billion.

 

When people look at things in a narrow perspective, particularly when they purpose is to confirm a conclusion made before the fact, they simply are not interested in how the entire process or the accurate understanding of issues.

 

If you think you read that in my post, read again.
No administration has ever done everything right, and couldn't- because congress and the voters would not allow it- too many special interests in play, often with no concern foe the big picture. Both parties are impacted and limited by that. Still, some administrations drift expenses to waste, some to things more beneficial. Administrations do have a substantial control, but certainly not the only control.

https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-under-obama-3306293

"Depending on who you ask, President Obama added anywhere from $983 billion to $9 trillion to the national debt. Who's lying? None of them. There are three ways to look at the debt added by any president."

 

I've already posted a response to you lop-sided claims. Look it up.

 

By having their share of the market go from 75% to 25%, and the market being taken over by chroni pal private institutions who would sell toxic mortgages to anyone who could sign their name, and the GOP regulators looking askance at all the corruption. LOL. Trying to blame it all on Democrats 20 years earlier allowing Worthy redlined minorities to be eligible is ridiculous as usual.

 

I didn't read it in a single post. I read it in all your posts. Starting with the untruth obama doubled the deficit. When in fact he was not that close to doubling it. While Reagan 186% and Bush W 105%, actually doubled it and more. But you still think everything is D's. Thats on you. No one else.

Yes, congress spends, so why did you even bother to bring up obama and the untruth about him doubling the deficit?

The ling I post compares each prez the exact same way. I haven't seen you say anything about that. Just ignore. And now you try to say, depends on who is lying? A prez is elected in Nov of say 2000. Doesn't get seated until end of Jan 2001. And doesn't have an impact on budget until Oct of the following year they were elected. It seems, the balance does a fair job of comparing apples to apples on prez's. If not, show where they are wrong.
Don't just say others do it different.
Always start at the 1st actual budget a prez could sign or veto.
And now, that same website shows tRUMP signed a spending bill and raised the deficit in 1 yr that took obama 2 yrs.
And what is different? 1 prez had to bail out the country from a great recession. 1 prez had a booming economy. Can you figure out which prez is which?

You've been back handed calling those who think a certain way are fools and lying to themselves. I have seen you also, think a certain way. Always calling out the D and the D prez. Even though, Reagan and Bush W are the worst ever, but for 2 D war time Prez's.

 

Yes you did. And you can't seem to comprehend it. You still think the R's are greatest ever. And D's the worst ever. But you didn't address how the claim is lopsided. Where did the link get it wrong?

 

Yes, we all feel so sorry for those who are in dire straights in life as a result of their own decisions. Like many conservatives, I will always extend a helping hand to those in need through no fault of their own, or who would do the same for me if our positions were reversed. That is a "Hand-Up", helping a good person get his life back together. However, I have neither sympathy or gifts for the person seeking help as a way of living; a way to avoid responsibility, to pay for addictions, to avoid becoming productive and responsible. That would be a Hand-Out, enabling the very things that keep that person in the place they are. However well intentioned you make think this is- it is not a gift, not generosity, it is stupidity. Not because you would be giving away value- but because you destroy motivation and the need for initiative in the person. The difference in these people is critical- you can't really help the second kind, because they will not help themselves, and you deprive them of what would cause motivation to kick in. Such people will take what they can get, without concern for responsibility, and without gratitude. Including loans they know they cannot repay.

Leading up to the mortgage crisis, we had a sloppily structured program that was based on the assumption that if you were poor, it was through no fault of your own and government should help. In one report of a mortgage operation marketing these loans to the "disadvantaged" in Seattle, we had a family of Mexican immigrants approved for and given a loan to buy a $500K house, when their income was $2500 a month. Regardless of the reason such people are poor, making that kind of loan is financial insanity. There were hundreds of thousands like that. Bankers, accountants, any sound financial manager aware of the total picture would have been having a melt-down, but those unwilling to be apply sound financial principle, look at the long-term, thought that was foolish. The government program to "help" made it possible.

Generally- not specifically or universally- democrats are in favor of larger government, greater power over people with social programs, and providing benefits with no funding or such poorly conceived funding plans they don't work. The essence here is that government will do it for you- provide as if it were a parent... with similar notions of control, making the people dependent on the government and the politicians that make such continued promises. Most of these concepts are dependent of taking money from some and giving it to others- without the permission of those whose money is being redistributed. Democrats seem to be near-sighted, seeing nothing that is likely to result in 5-10 years as relevant, it is all about right not, the current crisis. Failing to look well ahead means that every event is a surprise, and a crisis. Dependence makes you a sort of subject when it's mild.... and a prisoner when it expands and becomes comprehensive. In other words, followed along it's logical path- the democratically controlled government would have everyone under it's thumb. For their own good, of course, as they are a lot smarter than you and know what's best for you.

Republicans are in favor of smaller government, a government that does only what the people or states could not do for themselves, adherence to the constitution, and greater liberty for states, business and individuals. They endorse long-term planning, so that we make decisions today that will not precipitate crisis tomorrow. A primary value is Independence- you are responsible for your own choices and actions, as well as the consequences they create. This is Personal Freedom- the right to decide your own destiny. It's also what millions of us have fought and died for, so that you may have that benefit today. Nobody ever fought and died to get dependence and subjugation.

Ridiculous?
Others are free to be as foolish as they wish, as poor and ignorant as they wish, and I do not care. However when their plan is to support themselves by raiding the cupboards of people who have worked to lift themselves up and have a better life- They become thieves. I don't tolerate thieves.

Do you understand the difference between helping people get back on their feet and return to a productive life, and "helping" people remain dependent and devoid of self respect indefinitely?

To a fair extent. that is the difference in the way the two parties actions differ.

 

The media had to report Trump's Thanksgiving message to the troops.

The blowhard continues to issue baseless threats. He went overboard with his Thanksgiving message to the troops. Unbelievable!

Trump threatened to close the U.S. border with Mexico for an undisclosed period of time if his administration determines that its southern ally has lost “control” on its side. "If we find that it's uncontrollable," Trump said, "we will close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. The whole border."

In a word, that is ridiculous. The statement is fodder for his losing coalition, the ever gullible Trump fan who will believe anything Trump says.

Trump was not through with his empty Thanksgiving threats. In fact, he was just getting started. Trump also said he has given the thousands of active-duty troops he sent to the border before the Nov. 6 midterm elections the “OK” to use lethal force against migrants “if they have to.”

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was adamant the military would remain within its legal limits.

The law prohibits the federal government from using the armed forces in a domestic police role, except in cases and under circumstances specifically authorized by the Constitution or Congress.

Next, Trump threatened a government shutdown if he did not get his way with the border wall. “Could there be a shutdown? There certainly could, and it will be about border security, of which the wall is a part,” Trump said.

Again! How many times has Trump threatened a government shutdown over the border wall Mexico was supposed to pay for ... or so he promised? Three, four, five times, I have lost count. It has yet to happened. Again, more propaganda for his diminishing gullible base.

Then he moved on to more trivial pursuits such as his war with the judicial branch of our government and his meaningless feud with Chief Justice John Roberts. For the umpteenth time he took exception to a recent court decision that did not go his way.

So it went with Trump's Thanksgiving message to the troops. Heartwarming, huh?

I'm sure Americans were sorry to hear from the media Trump's self-serving message to the troops in harm's way.

 

Americans were also disappointed to hear from the media Trump's self-serving views concerning the Saudi crown prince who the CIA has accused of murder.

“After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States," Trump said Tuesday at a news conference. Every bit of that statement is a lie, but that is beside the point.

Trump cited the Kingdom's influence over oil prices and said, "if we abandon Saudi it would be a terrible mistake." Trump also said he was "not going to destroy the economy of our country" over Khashoggi by giving up arms deals to Saudi Arabia. Every bit of that statement is a lie, but that is beside the point.

"The CIA looked at it," Trump told journalists at the White House. "They have nothing definitive." "Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event – maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!” Trump said. Every bit of that statement is a lie, but that is beside the point.

Earlier, before the Khashoggi episode, believe it or not, Trump was telling the truth. Trump was not shy about touting the millions of dollars he'd earned from the Saudi royal family.

"I get along great with all of them," Trump said during the election campaign. "They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much!"

In June 2001, Trump sold the entire 45th floor of Trump World Tower to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for $4.5 million.

More recently, Saudis have been reliable customers at Trump Hotels when traveling in the United States. At the Trump International Hotel in Washington, which has served as something of an unofficial headquarters for foreign governments in the Trump era, a lobbying firm for Saudi Arabia paid the hotel more than $270,000 between October 2016 and March 2017. Trump Hotels in New York and Chicago have benefited from a rush of visitors from Saudi Arabia in recent months. https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/donald-trump-saudi-financial-interests/index.html

I don't know. Do you suppose there is a connection?

 

The national debt was 10.6 Trillion on January 20, 2009. The national debt was 21 Trillion on Jan 20, 2017. That is an increase of 10.4 Trillion under Obama..

 

What year did they get that house? Sounds like 2003 to 2007 where in the GOP regulators and they're Pals in the private lending World were Riding High. Same with big oil and their regulators under Bush... Big party... And z

Simple reasoning. Of course 80% at least of Obama's debt was for the stimulus that ended the recession and five or six trillion at least 4 welfare and unemployment etc for the victims.George W bush wrecked the world economy and the Middle East, an absolute catastrophe.
BP oil explosion and halliburton. And and of course Fox never mentions these things.

 

You believe a lot of garbage propaganda. Ronald Reagan and the bushes and Trump all did the same thing, cut taxes on the rich and have huge deficits and usually a bubble and bust for the middle class to pay for. And cut services and raise prices for the regular people.